Patch Issue At The Range.

[GO OutDoors]

First time shooting my Dixie Gun Works Tennessee Pour Boy 50 cal at the range today. The issue I have is I am using preluded 12.0 patch's .490 RB Goex FFF. I have pushed threw the patch a couple of time's. I think the patch's are dryer than they should be because I was finding them burning once I shot. I didn't have any lube with me so I went to the spit patch and it was fine. (Preluded patch's taste awful buy the way!) What would cause the push threw on the patch? I got them at the gun shop and who knows how long they have been there. I got some 11.000 and 12.000 pillow ticking and I will give it a go tomorrow with some Moose Milk.

 

[deermanok]

Yes, I think anyone will tell you that prelubed patches don't have a long shelf life. Personally, I like to use dry cotton patches. I can lube them as needed.

 

[ord sgt]

The lube will break down the cotton material over time. If the lube on those patches were dried out, they will have enough resistance during the loading to split open when started into the barrel.
When I get some new patches, I will work some fresh lube into the material. The new lube eases the loading. It works for me.

 

[Art Caputo]

Sound like the patches have been degraded by the lube over time effecting their integrity. Even if you moisten them with spit or moose milk they may still be compromised.

 

[nit wit]

.15 patch lube with spit. What's your charge?
Nit Wit

 

[GO OutDoors]

.15 patch lube with spit. What's your charge?
Nit Wit

60gr charge. I only shot it maybe 10 time's and Swabbed between shots.

 

[Bill Bryan]

I got an alcohol dispensing bottle from my doctor's office. You press down on the top to dispense a small squirt of liquid. I fill it with 1:7 Balistol to water mix. I moisten the cleaning and bullet patches with this mixture for each shot at the range. I use spit in the field. That way I can keep dry patches in my kit all the time. Bill

 

[Col. Batguano]

"...... (Preluded patch's taste awful buy the way!) .........I got them at the gun shop and who knows how long they have been there. I got some 11.000 and 12.000 pillow ticking and I will give it a go tomorrow with some Moose Milk."

I would advise Reindeer Milk (and cookies). Works for Santa!

Let us know how THOSE taste will you please?

 

[GO OutDoors]

I would advise Reindeer Milk (and cookies). Works for Santa!

Let us know how THOSE taste will you please?

Will Do!!!

 

[nit wit]

.15 patch should fix you up.
NW

 

[Okie Hog]

i refuse to use any liquid lube on patches. Mink Oil boot dressing, original Go Jo hand cleaner and Frontier's Lube are all great. Simply smear it on the patch at the range.

 

[Eterry]

I bought some pre lubed patches once years ago. They were junk, falling apart as i loaded. They looked much better in the camp fire that evening. Been buying pillow ticking ever since. 95% of the time I use spit for lube, works for me.

 

[Grenadier1758]

First time shooting my Dixie Gun Works Tennessee Pour Boy 50 cal at the range today. The issue I have is I am using preluded 12.0 patch's .490 RB Goex FFF. I have pushed threw the patch a couple of time's. I think the patch's are dryer than they should be because I was finding them burning once I shot. I didn't have any lube with me so I went to the spit patch and it was fine. (Preluded patch's taste awful buy the way!) What would cause the push threw on the patch? I got them at the gun shop and who knows how long they have been there. I got some 11.000 and 12.000 pillow ticking and I will give it a go tomorrow with some Moose Milk.

It does sound as if the prelubed patches are old since they have dried out and the patch material is weak as indicated by getting the push through tears. At the range I use unlubricated cotton drill cloth from JoAnn's Fabrics. I do lubricate the patch with a 1 part water soluble oil (Ballistol) to 7 parts of water. The patch is cut at the muzzle. My patch is 0.017" thick. I think your patch at 0.012" is too thin as well as being deteriorated by age and the prelubrication. One advantage with using unlubricated patching is that if a spit patch is required, you don't get the taste of the lubrication when you dampen the patch. I do wipe the bore between shots, so my patching material is dampened by the lube. If you are not wiping between shots then a wetter patch will be necessary to have the patch on loading doing the wiping of the fouling from the bore.

 

[GO OutDoors]

It does sound as if the prelubed patches are old since they have dried out and the patch material is weak as indicated by getting the push through tears. At the range I use unlubricated cotton drill cloth from JoAnn's Fabrics. I do lubricate the patch with a 1 part water soluble oil (Ballistol) to 7 parts of water. The patch is cut at the muzzle. My patch is 0.017" thick. I think your patch at 0.012" is too thin as well as being deteriorated by age and the prelubrication. One advantage with using unlubricated patching is that if a spit patch is required, you don't get the taste of the lubrication when you dampen the patch. I do wipe the bore between shots, so my patching material is dampened by the lube. If you are not wiping between shots then a wetter patch will be necessary to have the patch on loading doing the wiping of the fouling from the bore.

I am going to get thicker material today and give it a go again. I am going to my first frolic this weekend and want to get it grouping at 50 yard's.

 

[longcruise]

I prelubed some patches once with crisco. Worked fine but I changed patch material and they found their way to the bottom of a shooting box in a zip lock bag. Twenty years +/- later I came across them and loaded up. Worked just as good as ever.

 

[Griz44Mag]

This is a tale of woa told over and over and over on this forum. "Wonder patches" are anything but wonderful. The prelubed "wonder" patches are pure crap.
A dozen ways of lubing your own, in small batches or on demand have been discussed above.
Mink tallow is great, I pre-lube in small batches and store in cap tins.
I also carry a cap tin of mink tallow in my range box and some bags of dry patches.
It works, hot weather, dry weather, wet weather, cold, rainy of windy. And the mink does not seem to deteriorate with age.
Others will use different tallows, lubes, vegetable greases or spit. ALL of these are better than pre-lubed Wonder patches.
You are now on the right track, find what does work for you and your regime of shooting.
And make some happy smoke!

 

[hanshi]

I've never used bought patches either lubed or un-lubed. After simply handling them I could tell they were weak and might not be up to the job. One can buy much better material and cut out patches very easily; results are usually better.

 

[Professor flintlock]

I've never used bought patches either lubed or un-lubed. After simply handling them I could tell they were weak and might not be up to the job. One can buy much better material and cut out patches very easily; results are usually better.

Give Hoppes 9+ a try easy to use and works great.couple of drops on the patch. Fouling stays soft and no burn thru. They changed their formula recently and the older formula is better (brown bottle black top) but the new formula seems to work. Still testing.

 

[hanshi]

Give Hoppes 9+ a try easy to use and works great.couple of drops on the patch. Fouling stays soft and no burn thru. They changed their formula recently and the older formula is better (brown bottle black top) but the new formula seems to work. Still testing.

I still use Hoppes #9 BP Lube. And I, too, like the old formula better. Actually it's been changed twice that I'm aware of. When I first started using Hoppes it was a rather watery liquid a bit like the present formulation. When they changed it to the old thick stuff I REALLY liked it; in fact I bought a small drum of it but can't recall from where. It's all gone now but I do have a couple, three bottles of the newest stuff, and it works very well.

 

[GO OutDoors]

I will be looking into Hoppes-9. How about Mr Flintlock Lube? He only live's about 20 miles from me.