Patch Thickness for Match Shooting

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Would like to hear what patch thickness and ball size others are using for match shooting currently I am using a .016" dry lubed patch (compressed measure)and a .445" ball in my 45 cal rifle,this combo loads a litte tight although I can load it by hand with a sturdy range rod, this combination does shoot well,I am wondering if I should try a thinner patch to make loading a bit easier, or will accuracy suffer if I do? your input appreciated
 
You'll never know until you try. Every model and barrel has it's own special likes and dislikes. Some change over the course of their service life as the rifling wears. Things like lube type, quantity, loading methods, powder charge, make & granulation, ball hardness, etc. all effect accuracy and loading ease in addition to patch thickness. And that's just the variables you can control. Factor in rifling twist, depth, land profile, groove profile, smoothness, bedding, heat dissipation, etc. and you can see why accuracy varies from rifle to rifle.

A very tight combination can cost you more points than it earns you in a timed event. Otherwise, you generally get better accuracy with a very tight fit. I keep a small block with three balls that have only 0.010" dry patching and shoot with that quite often. It opens the groups 1" at 25 yards, but it sure is nice to load. My normal load is a .010" below bore sized ball and a 0.018" to 0.020" thick cotton patch.

I never did get the hang of measuring patching compressed. I can squeeze my empty Starrett micrometer enough to deform the jaws to -0.010" on the scale, so I rely on the built-in slip clutch and always stop on the third "click" when I zero it and then measure thereafter. Don't want to add torque variability and additional tools and measurements to an otherwise simple process. :winking:

What you might want to try is a small bottle of a moose milk type powder solvent and add two drops to the patch just before loading. It will make loading MUCH easier and may not adversely effect the accuracy . . . if you're lucky.
 
Anything you do to this load combination will alter accuracy + or -. You have obviously spent much time working up this recipe for this particular rifle, and any experimenting should be done in "small" doses.The first thing I would try is to moisten the same patch with TC bore butter or something simmiler and shoot you a five shot group and measure. If the group size is tollerable, this should ease the loading withen reason. If this were to be of no good,try a .015 ticking with the same dry lube you are currently using and shoot again for measure. If all fails, you can always go back to grunting! GOOD LUCK! Ronnie....
 
I'm shooting a .440 ball and .017 pillowticking, heavily lubed with Wonderlube...I just switched to this from .010 Ox yoke prelubed patches, and am happy with it..got my best score in our monthly match with it...Hank
 
On my two .50 flinters I use a .490 with .020-.022 denim patching. This combination short starts with a slap on the short starter and can be pushed down the barrel with a wooden rod. Both rifles will make one ragged hole at 25 yards.

BUT - This works for these particular rifles and I spent a lot of time working up these charge/patch/ball combinations. You will have to do the same thing to get a good combination with a looser fit. It may very well be that you may find the combination you are using is the best for the rifle all along but you won't know until you try.
 
My daughter tried the following once:

50 caliber percussion gun

(Ball/patch/grains of powder)
.490/.010/60
.490/.010/80
.490/.015/60
.490/.015/80
.495/.010/60
.495/.010/80
.495/.015/60
.495/.015/80

She and I each fired five shot groups of each combo. Accuracy was judged based on group size, as the point of impact wandered around for the various groups.

I do not have her notes but she found one "tight" combination that was most accurate and one "loose" combination that was almost as good. The tight combo was a lot harder to load. Neither of us hunted but the second most accurate group was so much easier to load that we decided it was the "hunting load" as the tight combo would be a bear to reload if you were in a hurry.

I am a cartridge shooter and the most amazing thing about the evening was the fact that we shot for two hours or more and I spent very little $$ doing it. It turned me into a muzzle loading fan.

If you are into statistics this set of data represents a full factorial DOE in three factors.
 

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