could someone please tell me if it would work o.k. if i used heavy denim patches instead of the proper wads, for example load powder then heavy lubed patch, then load shot and use a heavy denim patch on top of shot as an over shot card. i am shooting #5 lead shot in a .54 smoothbore.
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The Baron
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If you use just one disc of denim, I doubt it would keep the powder charge from blowing through the shot pattern, as I won't fit tight enough to form any kind of a gas seal. That's fine if you want to shoot stuff close, but maybe not too good for turkeys. A trip to the patterning board will tell the tale for sure. Is availability of wads the problem? I have read of guys making their own wad punched from a piece of hollow metal tube, with the edges sharpened to punch out pieces of thick cardboard for the purpose.
As for the overshot use of demin, as long as it is tight enough to hold the shot in the barrel, it should work fine. After all, that's the only purpose of the o/s card. :m2c:
As for the overshot use of demin, as long as it is tight enough to hold the shot in the barrel, it should work fine. After all, that's the only purpose of the o/s card. :m2c:
I don't think it will work too well at all unless you are talking about using a wadded up piece of denim. Even then, it won't give you the best of results. Wads are pretty cheap. You can get wads for any gauge from Circlefly Wads. A bag of 1000 overpowder or overshot wads is around $8 and the same price for a bag of 500 thick fiber cushion wad, which you can split in half and wind up with a 1000 of them too. So, for around $24, you have all the wads you need for a long time, and you know they will work right. :m2c:
What if you loaded powder, over-powder card, denim shot pouch with shot, over-shot card, would that get it?
It only has to hold it for twice the length of the barrel, once loading down and once shooting out...
You could even sew the shot inside the denim, like pre-fab shot pillows, breaking the threads as you loaded it... :hmm:
It only has to hold it for twice the length of the barrel, once loading down and once shooting out...
You could even sew the shot inside the denim, like pre-fab shot pillows, breaking the threads as you loaded it... :hmm:
Just using the denim for a sort of shotcup might work, but it won't work well without a wad to seal the bore. IMO
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Good Lord you people are in the hi-tech rut!
I know people that use wasp nests and dried grass as wadding! It is not the most scietific shooting method, but it works, as it did for all of the generations that had no shot cups, fiber wads or fancy fixin's.
That was for how many hundreds of years?
You're dealing with a .54, not a wing shooter's delight anyway. You just need to know you can throw shot and how to do it. Play with it and find out what works and what dosen't. You may be suprised at how well it patterns that tiney shot volume using denim, newspaper or whatever you have!
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I know people that use wasp nests and dried grass as wadding! It is not the most scietific shooting method, but it works, as it did for all of the generations that had no shot cups, fiber wads or fancy fixin's.
That was for how many hundreds of years?
You're dealing with a .54, not a wing shooter's delight anyway. You just need to know you can throw shot and how to do it. Play with it and find out what works and what dosen't. You may be suprised at how well it patterns that tiney shot volume using denim, newspaper or whatever you have!
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Ok, i guess i should have finished reading to the .54 cal part. :redface: Not to many wads available for them. My Bad.
Rusty Old Gunns
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Newhouse,
Check out the following websight:
Paper Shot Cartridges for the Smoothbore
http://members.aol.com/illinewek/faqs/shotcup.htm.
Its real easy and works great. I have a friend who carries a .69 cal belly pouch. In it is 12 shot loads. 4 each of 8, 6,and 4 (Color codes them).
When he needs a quick reload, he dumps the powder, over powder and cushon wad (glued together) and pops in the shot load he wants, then overshot card. Saves a lot of load time and spill.
And the "shot cup" keeps the shot tightly together until it leaves the barrel. Eliminates blow through, and gives him an extra 10 yards, which is great for turkey.
Check out the following websight:
Paper Shot Cartridges for the Smoothbore
http://members.aol.com/illinewek/faqs/shotcup.htm.
Its real easy and works great. I have a friend who carries a .69 cal belly pouch. In it is 12 shot loads. 4 each of 8, 6,and 4 (Color codes them).
When he needs a quick reload, he dumps the powder, over powder and cushon wad (glued together) and pops in the shot load he wants, then overshot card. Saves a lot of load time and spill.
And the "shot cup" keeps the shot tightly together until it leaves the barrel. Eliminates blow through, and gives him an extra 10 yards, which is great for turkey.
