I am shooting a shotgun pattern at 25 yrds. The first two shots are right on the monyey, every shot after that is anybody's guess. Am using a cleaning patch between each shot, then tried cleaning patch every 2nd -5th shot. Nothing worked. Finally resorted to a brass bore brush between every shot, grouped a little better. Bought this gun new so is this normal for a new pistol? Can I expect it to "settle in" after a few hundred rounds? oh, I am using 45 grs. Goex at 25 yrds. It's a .54 Kent. Pedersoli. Thanks
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Try shooting with less powder. I think you are over powering your load. I shoot my 45 Pedersoli LePage with 25 grains of 3F. Check out Pedersoli's website http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/uploads/supporto/9TABELLA DOSI POLVERE 09-2010.pdf
Pedersoli's recommended load for the .54 Kentucky pistol is 30 grains of powder a .535 ball and a
015 patch. I have found that Pedersoli's suggested load for my LePage is fairly tight and requires a substantial blow on the short starter to get it loaded but it does shoot good.
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Pedersoli's recommended load for the .54 Kentucky pistol is 30 grains of powder a .535 ball and a
015 patch. I have found that Pedersoli's suggested load for my LePage is fairly tight and requires a substantial blow on the short starter to get it loaded but it does shoot good.
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I will also say less powder. But I will throw in that you need to do some load development. We do not know what is the right amount of powder for your pistol.
Load it with 25 grains and shoot the target 5 times. Note the group.
Load it with 27 grains and again shoot the target 5 times. Note the group.
Continue to go up by 2 grain increments until you find the best group.
Once you have your best group with powder then you will try different patch thicknesses.
Oh and one more thing...Buy Dutch Schultz shooting papers. He has everything you will ever need to know to be the best muzzle loader shot you can be in his papers.
Load it with 25 grains and shoot the target 5 times. Note the group.
Load it with 27 grains and again shoot the target 5 times. Note the group.
Continue to go up by 2 grain increments until you find the best group.
Once you have your best group with powder then you will try different patch thicknesses.
Oh and one more thing...Buy Dutch Schultz shooting papers. He has everything you will ever need to know to be the best muzzle loader shot you can be in his papers.
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Oh yes...if ya can hit them in the boiler room it'll lay em down for sure... get some practice for accuracy....the gun can do it but can you is the question.....
can you post some photos of said pistol??
can you post some photos of said pistol??
This ole 'puter won't let me download pics anymore, and I'm to much of a tightwad to get it fixed. Sorry. It is just a plain Pedersoli Kentucky flinter with a 10" barrel. It acts like it will be pretty accurate once I get a load figgered out. I have now got it down to about 3" @25 off of sand bags. I want it to be 2" off bags @ 50. Is this possible? Am I asking too much?
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Lower your powder charge. 45 grains, even in a .54 cal. is a bit high for a pistol. As suggested, trying different ball sizes and patch thickness may also help. Always us the lightest charge you can, commensurate with getting the job done. Too much powder can also cause flinches.
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45 grains would not generally be too heavy a charge for hunting, but it is about double of what you should be starting out with. Once you can get a fair group and can do so consistently, then start inching the load up to hunting power, if that is your desire. By the time you can hit a consistent group with a moderate charge, your hand and reflexes will be accustomed to aiming and squeezing the gun. The front heavy nature of the design causes hand fatigue during range sessions at first, so practice, practice practice.
Pay attention to your stance and breath control. Feet about shoulder width apart, toes slightly wider than the heels. Drawing a line across the tips of the toes should go straight to the target. Stand erect, shooting arm extended and the free hand on that side's hip or even tucked in the hip pocket. It tends to pull that shoulder back to keep posture more erect. Drawing a line through both shoulders and down the shooting arm should go straight to a point directly above the target.
For hunting, you will probably want a two hand hold police combat style. That takes a different posture and hold, but breath control and squeeze are still the same.
Either way, You want the hold, breath control and squeeze to be such a habit that you don't need to think about it, that it becomes an automatic unconscious habit.
Pay attention to your stance and breath control. Feet about shoulder width apart, toes slightly wider than the heels. Drawing a line across the tips of the toes should go straight to the target. Stand erect, shooting arm extended and the free hand on that side's hip or even tucked in the hip pocket. It tends to pull that shoulder back to keep posture more erect. Drawing a line through both shoulders and down the shooting arm should go straight to a point directly above the target.
For hunting, you will probably want a two hand hold police combat style. That takes a different posture and hold, but breath control and squeeze are still the same.
Either way, You want the hold, breath control and squeeze to be such a habit that you don't need to think about it, that it becomes an automatic unconscious habit.
"I have now got it down to about 3" @25 off of sand bags. I want it to be 2" off bags @ 50. Is this possible?"
The 10 ring on a NMTRA 50 yard pistol target is a touch over 2".
Assuming you shot two (2) five shot groups for measurement off sand bags at 50 yards, you would have to shoot a 100 X 10X with a smooth bore to meet your goal.
Not many unlimited pistols can do that, much less a smooth bore. Smooth bore pistols matches are shot at 25 yards, 13 shots and best 10 count.
High Masters shooting unlimited pistols offhand at 50 yards figure it will take a minimum of 85 to put them on the winners board.
You have a lofty goal, good luck, but seems unrealistic to me. Hunting, you are not going to have sandbags and a bench.
The 10 ring on a NMTRA 50 yard pistol target is a touch over 2".
Assuming you shot two (2) five shot groups for measurement off sand bags at 50 yards, you would have to shoot a 100 X 10X with a smooth bore to meet your goal.
Not many unlimited pistols can do that, much less a smooth bore. Smooth bore pistols matches are shot at 25 yards, 13 shots and best 10 count.
High Masters shooting unlimited pistols offhand at 50 yards figure it will take a minimum of 85 to put them on the winners board.
You have a lofty goal, good luck, but seems unrealistic to me. Hunting, you are not going to have sandbags and a bench.
just noticed, you never say if you are using 2F or 3F powder
Richard- The barrel is rifled. And I have to have lofty goals if I want to be competitive with the other shooters. Several of them are very good marksman! Very good! I may not find a sand bag in the forest, but I want to know that the gun is capable of that kind of accuracy and that if I miss my mark, it is my fault.
Cynthia- I am using 3f Goex.
Cynthia- I am using 3f Goex.
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Osage,
I shoot the same pistol as you do. (mine is a percussion BTW)
For target at 25yds is 25gr 3f and a .15 cotton patch with a Ballistol 1to5 mix. Best I shot was offhand 50 5x. Very accurate.
(must have been hungover that day, have not shot that well since!!! :rotf: )
Is a very accurate pistol but check local hunting laws. In Indiana it is too short in the barrel.
I love my pistol though. VERY reliable and accurate.
I shoot the same pistol as you do. (mine is a percussion BTW)
For target at 25yds is 25gr 3f and a .15 cotton patch with a Ballistol 1to5 mix. Best I shot was offhand 50 5x. Very accurate.
(must have been hungover that day, have not shot that well since!!! :rotf: )
Is a very accurate pistol but check local hunting laws. In Indiana it is too short in the barrel.
I love my pistol though. VERY reliable and accurate.
Oh good call on checking the local hunting regs...
For instance, in my state they expect you to put at least a 45 grain charge of powder in a hunting pistol, yet they fail to designate a minimum powder load for a rifle.
For instance, in my state they expect you to put at least a 45 grain charge of powder in a hunting pistol, yet they fail to designate a minimum powder load for a rifle.
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