pedersoli 1857 mauser

[bluemoon]

Does anyone have any experience with one of these? Quality, accuracy. Does it do well with patched round ball? Is the .547 cal. a disadvantage for not being standard .54. Or should I get the rifled 69 cal. 1842 from armi-sport and make some bigger holes in the paper plates?

Thanks for any feedback. I'm new to the forum and really liking it.

 

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'57 Mauser......HMMMMMMM... thats one ya dont hear much about....should be interesting to hear what forum members know cuz I personally dont know anything 'bout it.
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[Russ T Frizzen]

I know one person with the rifled 1842 and he swears by it. Says it is accurate as all get out. In my humble opinion, you should get the Mauser and thoroughly test it and then report your results to us. Perhaps we could conduct a poll on this?

 

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Peter Paul Mauser was not born until 1838 and the first Mauser rifle adapted by the Germans was his needle gun of 1871!!!


This is a cartridge gun. :sorry:


Are we actually talking about an 1857 Enfield?
:huh:

 

[bezoar]

Mauser was producing guns before 1870...

 

Peter Paul was drafted into the army in 1859 at age 21

As employees of the royal armory he and brother Wilhelm worked on several design improvements on the Dryuse as early as 1861.

Mod of 1871 was tested in 1870. Was the first completely Mauser design.

First Mauser factory was opened 1872.

 

[bluemoon]

From Dixie gun works site. May be TMI.

Originally manufactured by The Royal Wurttemberg Gun Factory in Oberndorf from 1857 to 1862. Peter and Paul Mauser, who later developed the famous Mauser bolt-action rifle, were employed there at the time as junior craftsmen. In 1862, Marcellus Hartley, in Europe purchasing guns for the U.S. Government, bought 2,000 of these arms from B.M. Tambeur Freres of Leige, Belgium. This reproduction features a fullstock of European walnut 52" long with satin oil finish, 2 1/4" drop and 13 1/4" trigger pull. Barrel is .547 caliber, 39 3/8" long, ocatgon to tapered round 1.075" to .790". Rifled .006" deep, 5 lands .547" and 5 grooves .559" with 1-48" twist. Front sight is steel lug on upper band, rear sight is steel adjustable for windage and elevation. Steel furniture amory bright. Color casehardened lock and barrel tang, lockplate is engraved "KONIGI.WURT FABRIK", patent hook breech, 3 band springs, sling swivels. Steel ramrod with brass end. Uses musket caps. Load with 60 grains of FFg black powder and .535 patched round ball. Does have a half cock (safety) notch. Made by Pedersoli in Italy.

Pedersoli site says 1-55 twist rifling. I believe the hooked breech would be great for cleaning. :thumbsup:

 

[Slamfire]

The ramrod is sold seperately according to the Dixie Gun Works catalog, along with the bayonet and hanger. ::

 

[rabjr]

Peter Paul Mauser was not born until 1838 and the first Mauser rifle adapted by the Germans was his needle gun of 1871!!!

Ghost, I own a Mauser mod 71 and its not a needle gun. It is a single shot bolt action chambered for the 11mm Mauser black powder cartridge.

 

[Tumblernotch]

I know what the plateslayer is a talkin' about now. Those Wurttemberg muskets were originally .72 cal smoothbores which were converted to percussion and rifled, possibly by speculators in Liege and dumped on yankee gun agent Marcellus Hartley. The Mauser boys were apprentices at the Oberndorf factory about '57 or '58. The lockplates were probably restamped with these dates after having been ground and having screw holes filled. Is Dixie selling repros of these? :hmm:

 

[Slamfire]

Guess my memory is gone too, it was the Austrian Lorenz that sold the ramrod seperately.
Here's the url for the Mauser:
1857 Mauser

 

[Tumblernotch]

I got on that site. Not a bad lookin' piece if you like Continental small arms. It will definitely give the reenactor more variety. I kind of wish I'd kept my Lorenz.