That comment is beyond obtuse yet to be expected on todays internet. On different forums I see the parochial comments from the guy that owns a Jeep constantly attacking anyone with the thought of buying a Bronco or Tacoma. They may even post a picture of a cartoon urinating in their back window on another vehicle. I find most of the people who bash a Jeep diesel are the ones who never owned one, are they that jealous or simply insecure that someone would dare to do something different than themselves. Then I think of Jay leno, imagine if his collection was only Corvettes. No he appreciates everything about all vehicles, what they represent and what they can do. His collection is to be admired, and his knowledge is from experience. Why would it be so hard to understand that there are people in this world that appreciate all guns, yes all guns. I happen to love the current made muzzleloaders, the old muzzleloaders, English, Italian, Hershal house, Cartridge guns, Inlines, Cannons, and everything in-between. For you to assume from your keypad that anyone on this forum has no knowledge of English Guns because they dont only appreciate English guns is again, beyond Obtuse! Maybe some dont have a full appreciation for English guns because after their past relatives threw their tea in the big pond, they fought them shot them and sent them home.. Who knows. Maybe its just because the thread was not about your English guns.