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Peep sights
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Muzzleloader Builders Supply has what, IMO, appers to be a traditional peep for 17.95 and the aperture for 4.95
21110 - Johnson Peep Sight Only ”“ Traditional styling
Peep Sight with at Traditional Flair
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21200 - .050 (Small) Aperture for Johnson Peep Sight
Peep Sight with at Traditional Flair
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Sorry, I thought the pictures would be included. Looks like they got cut off. Check MBS and click on sights.
21110 - Johnson Peep Sight Only ”“ Traditional styling
Peep Sight with at Traditional Flair
$ 17.95
Check Out
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21200 - .050 (Small) Aperture for Johnson Peep Sight
Peep Sight with at Traditional Flair
$ 4.95
Check Out
Sorry, I thought the pictures would be included. Looks like they got cut off. Check MBS and click on sights.
Hacksaw
An alternative would be to make a "cheap Peep" Get a thumb screw, drill and tap a hole in the front end of the tang/breech area to accept this screw. Drill a hole the desired diameter in the center of the thumb section. Put a small lock nut on the screw and screw into the tapped hole. Screw up or down to get the proper elevation. When you have it, lock down the lock nut. Windage is gotten by moving the front sight. You can shape and reduce the size of the thumb section with a sander or grinder, then polish. Simple, and works.
An alternative would be to make a "cheap Peep" Get a thumb screw, drill and tap a hole in the front end of the tang/breech area to accept this screw. Drill a hole the desired diameter in the center of the thumb section. Put a small lock nut on the screw and screw into the tapped hole. Screw up or down to get the proper elevation. When you have it, lock down the lock nut. Windage is gotten by moving the front sight. You can shape and reduce the size of the thumb section with a sander or grinder, then polish. Simple, and works.
". Just want to get something that looks like it is supose to be on the Kentucky and I can see.'
The second part is pretty easy, the first part is a tough one as I don't know much in the way of documentation for non-target guns in the Kentucky rifle era, most try a home made one to get the old timey look which is probably as good as you can get for one that looks like it should be there from a historical standpoint, this issue general becomes a compromise between HC and eyesight requirements.
The second part is pretty easy, the first part is a tough one as I don't know much in the way of documentation for non-target guns in the Kentucky rifle era, most try a home made one to get the old timey look which is probably as good as you can get for one that looks like it should be there from a historical standpoint, this issue general becomes a compromise between HC and eyesight requirements.
I have amny times. In fact, I have one to do for a man from this site.
I don't have pics of many, but here are 2 that I made. They are both on English .62 cal(Purdey) style rifles, one left handed and one right handed.
One is a 2 aperture "L", which works like the one in the rear sight of an AR-15 or M-16 (yes, it's old fashioned. Our army didn't invent it) and the other is a long bar, with a stepped elevator and windage chair.The one I will make for out friend on this site is going to be a simpler one. Fixed, and I will file and drift the sights to zero. So it won't be "adjustable" like the long bar, but when I deliever the rifle it's already sighted in.
Hope these help
SZ
I don't have pics of many, but here are 2 that I made. They are both on English .62 cal(Purdey) style rifles, one left handed and one right handed.
One is a 2 aperture "L", which works like the one in the rear sight of an AR-15 or M-16 (yes, it's old fashioned. Our army didn't invent it) and the other is a long bar, with a stepped elevator and windage chair.The one I will make for out friend on this site is going to be a simpler one. Fixed, and I will file and drift the sights to zero. So it won't be "adjustable" like the long bar, but when I deliever the rifle it's already sighted in.
Hope these help
SZ
"", which works like the one in the rear sight of an AR-15 or M-16 (yes, it's old fashioned. Our army didn't invent it)"
How far back can this type be documented, on average run of the mill guns? I have seen peeps on 18th century Jaegars but they are some what of a specialty and probably not common in the colonies at the time.
How far back can this type be documented, on average run of the mill guns? I have seen peeps on 18th century Jaegars but they are some what of a specialty and probably not common in the colonies at the time.
I can't say how back this kind can be documented.
I copied it from an original rifle, but it was English, and I would guess it dated from the 1850 (or newer) era.
As far as how far back peep sights can be doucmented, I can tell you.........A LONG WAYS!
I have seen and handeled cross bows with peep sights that date back as far as firearms do, and perhaps farther. I also have seen and handeled Jaeger rifles from the early to mid 1700s that had peep sights. Most were a standing type sight, mounted on the wrist of the rifle.
There are some old American flintlock arms I have seen that had simple peep sights on them that probably date back to the late 1700s, but it's got to be kept in mind that such sights could have been added after the gun was made, so all we really have to go on is our best guesses. Some of the sights I have seen are very obviously OLD, but how old is not known. (at least not known by me)
I copied it from an original rifle, but it was English, and I would guess it dated from the 1850 (or newer) era.
As far as how far back peep sights can be doucmented, I can tell you.........A LONG WAYS!
I have seen and handeled cross bows with peep sights that date back as far as firearms do, and perhaps farther. I also have seen and handeled Jaeger rifles from the early to mid 1700s that had peep sights. Most were a standing type sight, mounted on the wrist of the rifle.
There are some old American flintlock arms I have seen that had simple peep sights on them that probably date back to the late 1700s, but it's got to be kept in mind that such sights could have been added after the gun was made, so all we really have to go on is our best guesses. Some of the sights I have seen are very obviously OLD, but how old is not known. (at least not known by me)
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Except for military and purely target rifles peep sights have never been what could be called common, even thru today. Before the advent of quality rifle scopes most guys used the open sights that came on the rifle. You just didn't see many peep sights. Were they available and used by those who know how to use them and prefer them, yes. The concept and use of peep sights supposedly goes back to the days of the Roman Empire so yes, they are older than firearms.
Silver mounted rifles weren't common either but the did exist and were used. When the percussion system first came on the scene it wasn't common either.
I don't believe a person should be mounting a fine Redfield or Lyamn, click adjustable receiver sight on his muzzleloader but peeps did exist and were used.
Vic
Silver mounted rifles weren't common either but the did exist and were used. When the percussion system first came on the scene it wasn't common either.
I don't believe a person should be mounting a fine Redfield or Lyamn, click adjustable receiver sight on his muzzleloader but peeps did exist and were used.
Vic
"I don't believe a person should be mounting a fine Redfield or Lyamn, click adjustable receiver sight on his muzzleloader but peeps did exist and were used"
When the question is about PC/HC the above is a very good way to sum it up, often the tendency is to take a very old concept and use the modern version and hang a HC/PC tag on ot which can be confusing for those lookingto be in step with history so to speak.
When the question is about PC/HC the above is a very good way to sum it up, often the tendency is to take a very old concept and use the modern version and hang a HC/PC tag on ot which can be confusing for those lookingto be in step with history so to speak.
I agree TG
I am not against having modern guns. Or modern equipment. Not at all.
However I see the "modernizing" of muzzleloading to be parallel to "competing" in a bicycle race and entering with a motorcycle.
Neather one is evil or "wrong" but they should not be compeating against each other. Or it's like having a boxing match, but letting one fighter ues a club.
If someone wants to "shoot modern," they should be able to, but they should not get some special right to do so against other shooters in a match or hunting season that are doing it the old way, espcially when the match or season was supposed to be "for the old way" in the first place.
I am not against having modern guns. Or modern equipment. Not at all.
However I see the "modernizing" of muzzleloading to be parallel to "competing" in a bicycle race and entering with a motorcycle.
Neather one is evil or "wrong" but they should not be compeating against each other. Or it's like having a boxing match, but letting one fighter ues a club.
If someone wants to "shoot modern," they should be able to, but they should not get some special right to do so against other shooters in a match or hunting season that are doing it the old way, espcially when the match or season was supposed to be "for the old way" in the first place.
