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Has anyone ever considered a double barrel shotgun with both flint and percussion locks installed (one each side)?

Have the percussion lock on the side where you put your face and the flint on the far side of the stock, away from your eye...

Besides having two different priming systems, it would make for an interesting firearm...

What do you think about this set up?
 
Has anyone ever considered a double barrel shotgun with both flint and percussion locks installed (one each side)?

Have the percussion lock on the side where you put your face and the flint on the far side of the stock, away from your eye...

Besides having two different priming systems, it would make for an interesting firearm...

What do you think about this set up?


I am more afraid of them thar little cappy thingies close to me face than a flint! :no:

If you are going that far why not an inline with 209's on one side and a matchlock on the other? :shake:

Ya,,, I have not had my coffee yet either.... :sleep:

Might be fun to look at------> ONCE ! :eek: :eek:

Hairsmith
Keep yer powder dry :peace:
 
musket sounds interesting who would bild the beast also would we discus it under flint or percusion and what if i fumbel and put a cap in the pan would #10 caps light easer than musket capslike 4f as aposed to 2f :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 
Well, you could fabricate a story that the gun was being converted to percussion and only one side was finished before the gunsmith was called to duty during the Civil War... :haha:

Just thought it would be a fun thing to ponder...
 
I can see Claude now, stuck in a do-loop (programming term): "This post belongs in Flintlock--no, it belongs in Percussion--, no, it should be in Flintlock--no, it really belongs in........" :hmm: :curse: ::
 
I think he may have something here. Any number of times I have opened my hunting pouch to load and found nothing but flints when I'm holding a percussion gun, and vice versa. This way, I could always have one barrel to save the day.

Of course, then I'd have .530 balls and no wads or shot.
 
And don't ferget it's a smoothie, so flintlock?, no percussion?, no Smoothebore?, maybe. Ya knows they gots them ones thet are rifled on one side and smooth on the other, jest to make her more confusing. Maybe we could call it a blond gun :crackup: :rolleyes: :shake:
 
how about one side being flint and the other a paper cartridge breech loader . Of course that would include a paper cartridge and primer by the way sence the pauly system does carry an 1812 patent LMAO
Just thought I would poke a stick into this nest lol
 
Pauly System for breechloaders? Just how did this method of his work? ive found one reference to a gun breech that did not explain function, and 2 sites on how the pauly system was used to operate 4 jail cell doors at a time.

any kind of pictures? and do you mean paper cartridge like the snider conversion of teh enfield first used?
 
One of the earliest successful attempts at something very different in firearm design was made by Swiss gunmaker, Johannes Pauly, in 1812. His invention contained the two most characteristic elements of the modern firearm - breech-loading and a self-contained cartridge. Pauly's breechloader had a hinge arrangement between the breech - the mechanism at the rear of the barrel, attached to the gunstock - and the barrel itself. For the first time, the rifle came "apart", i.e., into two, hinged pieces - a breech and a barrel. a Swiss gunsmith working in Paris,he invented a centerfire cartridge with a brass base and carboard body similar to the modern shotgun shell, but this innovation is 50 years ahead of its time. His "cartridge" used a cardboard paper tube to hold the cap on one end, the bullet on the other with the gunpowder charge inside the tube. Improvement was rapid from this stage onward until the mid-1800s when successful breech-loading rifles were widely used by the militaries of several European countries.

down about 1/2 way on this link is a small discription of the pauly
pauly system
the only photo i have seen was in an old BP mag back in the mid 80's
i believe it was marked pauly breech loader, tower of london . it looked somewhat like an early SXS with a leaver opening breach
 
I saw an Pauly Brevette period clone in a shop, opened the breech to see how it worked and I am still none the wiser ::

No firing pins, reckon thise two bits down the bottom snapped up or something, 'tis a mystery to me :thumbsup:
 
It sounds like the daddy to the external hammer side by side of western fame. And you now have me real interested in just how it looked. Does anyone know if the US Patent office might still have it in a file somewhere?
 
Didn't Johnny Cash write a song about that perc/flint shotgun :hmm:......oh, sorry wait...that was a cadillac ::
 
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