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percussion maynard carbine
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Jeff,
I had the chance to shoot one of the Romano 1st Model 50cal. Excellent quality and very accurate. I believe the round was cast from a lyman 515139 mould and used about 25gr fffg. If I could afford one I would not hesitate to buy one.
Good Luck.
Tom
I had the chance to shoot one of the Romano 1st Model 50cal. Excellent quality and very accurate. I believe the round was cast from a lyman 515139 mould and used about 25gr fffg. If I could afford one I would not hesitate to buy one.
Good Luck.
Tom
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I have Maynard primers but no gun. God bless eBay ::
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Pilgrim
Can you recommend some good book that covers the topic of this carbine? I can't find the patent for this gun on USPTO by searching using the date of the patent. Does anybody know the patent number for it?
According to an article on the web, Dr Edward Maynard patented his tape primer on September 2, 1845.
https://www.ortnergraphics.com/services/civil-war-firearms/maynard-carbine.html
Although this link is a PDF file about the Maynard Carbine, you might find it interesting.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/civil-war/Maynard-gun.pdf
This link says the Patent for the tape primer was "US Patent No. 4,208 - 1845" and shows the Patent drawings.
http://www.hlebooks.com/patents/maynard/mayn01.htm
https://www.ortnergraphics.com/services/civil-war-firearms/maynard-carbine.html
Although this link is a PDF file about the Maynard Carbine, you might find it interesting.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/civil-war/Maynard-gun.pdf
This link says the Patent for the tape primer was "US Patent No. 4,208 - 1845" and shows the Patent drawings.
http://www.hlebooks.com/patents/maynard/mayn01.htm
Additional information Maynard Patents:
1859 Patent 25663, Carbine , Back Sight
1860 Patent 30537 Firearm, Breech Loading
The place I found this information is a Smithsonian Institution PDF file of Patent models.
I'm sure it isn't complete because it doesn't show any listing for Rider's 1858 Patent that evolved into the Remington Army revolver.
If your interested in looking at this listing or downloading it, here's the link:
https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/9697/scht-0054_Vol1.pdf?sequence=3&isAllowed=y
I found that looking under the NMAH Division for "Armed Forces History" sped up the process of finding Patents dealing with firearms.
(These PDF files may need to have a reader downloaded from Adobe to see them. It's free.)
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I found on page 225 there is a listing of lots of firearm Patents that might be fun to look thru.
It shows 48423 , 1865 Firearm Breech Loading by Maynard
1859 Patent 25663, Carbine , Back Sight
1860 Patent 30537 Firearm, Breech Loading
The place I found this information is a Smithsonian Institution PDF file of Patent models.
I'm sure it isn't complete because it doesn't show any listing for Rider's 1858 Patent that evolved into the Remington Army revolver.
If your interested in looking at this listing or downloading it, here's the link:
https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/9697/scht-0054_Vol1.pdf?sequence=3&isAllowed=y
I found that looking under the NMAH Division for "Armed Forces History" sped up the process of finding Patents dealing with firearms.
(These PDF files may need to have a reader downloaded from Adobe to see them. It's free.)
Edit
I found on page 225 there is a listing of lots of firearm Patents that might be fun to look thru.
It shows 48423 , 1865 Firearm Breech Loading by Maynard
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If you have a chance to buy a Romano Maynard it will be well worth your time. Larry's guns rival the originals in fit and finish and they are highly sought after.
They also cost more than an excellent condition shootable original, too.
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Pilgrim
Thank you for the info. I'm looking for some nice condition percussion cap original and someone willing to send to Poland. Romano is too expensive for me.
Unfortunatly we can't ship any guns or parts outside the states. A friend who manufactures Maynard barrels had to turn down an order from Poland last summer. My wife will be in Warsaw for the month of March, too bad she couldn't sneak one in in her luggage.
I spent 2 months in Warsaw last year but didn't get the chance to get to Crakow which is too bad as it's a beautiful city and I haven't been there since 30 years ago.Got a link to an excellent condition original? Since most of them were used by the CSA, I would think they are quite valuable.
That’s not the point.
The Romano replicas are every bit as pricey as a good shooting original. Why in the Sam hell would someone pay as much or more for a replica with no history of the real deal? I’m sure Romano makes a fine rifle, he darn sure better for the cost. Really if you look at the design it is dead nuts simple and I’m betting an outfit like Pietta or Pedersoli could make a good repro for under $1500 all day, but of course they won’t because the black powder community is stagnant and most enthusiasts will be dead within 2-3 decades. This sport is NOT growing, and is set to shrink dramatically.
Actually you can buy 2 nice original Maynards for the price ("Retail Price Including All Tax: $3995.00") of one Romano reproduction. The Maynard could be produced in Italy and wouldn't cost any more than a Pietta Smith carbine, possibly less as they are quite simple.
http://www.romanorifle.com/1401.html
http://www.romanorifle.com/1401.html
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Pilgrim
Don't they need tighter tolerances than Smith to have a good seal?
The way the wide rim case is made it makes a nice seal, from my readings.
Not really, they are just like a single barrel shotgun, the case does the sealing. If the headspace is correct the rim will fit snugly between the back of the barrel and the breech face eliminating any fore and aft play in the barrel. The large rim is for you to grasp with your thumb and forefinger to pull the case out (digital extraction system).
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Pilgrim
Could this principle of sealing be used in theory for other percussion breechloaders - i.e. Sharps?
Yes, the army did that to the Sharps after the war; they converted them to .50-70. Most of the Civil War era breech loaders used a brass or gutta-percha (hard rubber) cartridge that contained everything except the percussion cap and sealed the breech. The Hall and Sharps were exceptions.
Most of the Civil War era breech loaders used a brass or gutta-percha (hard rubber) cartridge that contained everything except the percussion cap and sealed the breech. The Hall and Sharps were exceptions.
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Yes, I know that they converted them to use metallic cartridges ignited with primers. I am curious however if in the case the brass case would be carefully head spaced, modified breech plate and have a small flash hole on the base of the case similar to the one in percussion Maynard could it give a good seal in Sharps.
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