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LOL !! There's a can of worms ! It funny to hear folks talkin about how bad their guns kick or pop them in the face too ...then you find out they are shooting 80-90 gr. of powder . Dont get me wrong , to each their own ... and a few of these guys report phenomenal accuracy with their smoothbores at extended ranges with large powder charges too so ...go with their bad selves but you'll never catch me shooting anymore than 65 gr. ,and its usually 60 gr.,  in my trade gun , never saw the need ... Experimentation is fun though ... take care


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