thanks for the offer, finished it this morning, used pine and oak. its under this forum, (powder horn build along). no picks yet, will show, knife, powder horn, 44, 50, powder measure, and possibly bag. not the best, but for me it works. ps, all the stuff i make is by hand, that way i can do too things, get the feel of how they did it back then, and use the tools i seldom use.