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I got roped into making powder measures for some friends. Nothing fancy, just simple tubes. Anybody ever figure out what size hole you bore, and how deep, to get fifty grains of 3f. I just don't want to go through the whole trial and error thing.
 
Ghost, doesn't the cane already have a hole in it? You could just put in 50 grs. and cut it off there. I've seen them made of bamboo that way.
 
Ghost, doesn't the cane already have a hole in it? You could just put in 50 grs. and cut it off there. I've seen them made of bamboo that way.

Yes, river cane is hollow so you might want to plug the bottom of the cane, so as the powder don't run out the other end... :haha:

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River cane and bamboo look similar, I would dry it though, any moisture in the cane will soak into the powder...

River cane, called "i-hi" in Cherokee (meaning cane) is used for Blowguns, chairs, baskets, pipestems, and for shining clay pots. The stems are the part that is used. The whole river cane is hollowed for the blow gun. Where does the plant grow? Around creek banks and swamps, because there is more moisture in the ground. The best time to gather plants is anytime, but the winter is good because there are no snakes or ticks.
 
MM, isn't the cane closed at the joints? or is it hollow all the way thru? Is the wall thick enough that the hole can be drilled larger? Just trying to figure out what he was asking. Seems like you'd just cut it off below the joint pour 50 grs. in the other end cut it off at the top of the powder and your done. Would that not work? ::
 
Not sure, I have never used the plant, I got the info from a botanical web page about the plant, they stated it was hallow, but they didn't state how large the hole was between the joints...
 
Cane IS hollow. Cane IS closed at the joints. There is a smattering of pith along the inside that is easily removed with a drill bit approximating the existing hole. The walls are fairly thin, but the diameter can be expanded a small amount. I normally cut it long enough to put whatever grains of powder I want in the hollow and as earlier stated....cut it and finish the edges. I also leave a bit below the joint to put a hole in for a thong for attaching to "whatever". I do a little carving...burning...stamping along the length of the outside of each one I make....much as I believe a longhunter with time on his hands would have done with his knife or file. Most of the originals I have seen are relatively plain, but show stains. I also stain or paint on them sometimes. I usually have 25-30 on the trade blanket and sell quite a few when I explain what they are made from and where I collect my cane. I get my cane from along the banks of Skaggs Creek....named after the Longhunter Henry Skaggs here in the "dark and bloody ground"of Kentucky. There is a large cave where my ancestors attempted to mine salpetre for the war of 1812 there. It has been a site of many flint finds and used as a shelter since heaven knows when. I can't help but believe that perhaps Skaggs and some of his party would have sheltered there....maybe even cut a few measures from the very same cane thickets I collect from. Measures could also be designed to hold different amounts of powder on each side of the joint....or maybe powder on one side and shot on the other. Next time you are at a rendezvous in this neck of the woods and see a blanket with several cane measures laid out, stop and say hello 'cuz it just might be me! Recon I could also make one to your spec's and mail it to ya for the proper remuneration....I can do pictures and send you...but aint smart enough to get them on this site.
 
Say, I know where there is an old river cane fishing pole...

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder if my brother would miss a few feet off the base of it? :winking: :haha:
 
Here are some river cane powder measures made by Two Shadows, he was gracious enough to share them with us...

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Very nice! The third picture looks like it got a bit charred. Flashed when loading with an ember in the bore? That would get your buckskins damp!

I especially like the fish one - that and the one next to it look like antler. I may just have to steal that pattern.
 
Those are very nice indeed! I like the idea that the charge is marked on them... Many a times we find ourself scratching our head when we get our measures mixed up... Right or wrong or period correct, I mark mine... Again, very nice workmanship, Two Shadows! :applause:
 
Very nice 2 shadows, I like those. Like the antler ones to, that's the kind I do. We don't have cane but we have lot's of antler.
 
Thanks guys...Stumpkiller, my evil twin sometimes uses a torch to age them some. Fire was always prevalent in the canebreaks....they were tinderboxes in the rough. Easy to burn off a thicket of them and have ground ready to plow and plant...one of the major reasons for settlers to build and plant in the "canebreaks of Ky"
 
Very nice!!!! :)
Now where'd I put that odd antler? ::
Got me a new "Govn't Project" for work. ::
 

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