Pretty Canoe Gun

[CrackStock]

I attended an event at Ninety Six, SC this past weekend and they had a raffle for a beautiful canoe gun.

I admored it greatly, even though I am less than enthused about most "canoe guns" in general. The figure in the wood was very good, the fit and finish was great and the overall appearance was outstanding.

After looking at it for a few moments, I guessed that it was a Jackie Brown gun that had been put up on a shelf from several years ago. It looked just like his older work, but was advised that it was recently made by him. Anyone else had recent experience with any of Jackie's products? If his re-entry into the gun making business has been this good, I need to call him for another project.

YMHS,
CrackStock

 

[Stumpkiller]

I figure if I ever needed to shoot a canoe that my deer rifle could do double duty. :winking:

 

[Rat]

Stump, when the canoe is shooting some fast rapids, you need a short gun that will swing real fast or you'll just hit water behind it.

Wish they'd start calling them things "coach guns"...a little more "correct" I believe.

Rat

 

[musketman]

Wish they'd start calling them things "coach guns"...a little more "correct" I believe.

Rat

Canoe imagine that? :haha:

 

[BLAHMAN]

Wish they'd start calling them things "coach guns"...a little more "correct" I believe.

Rat

Canoe imagine that? :haha:

How big does the bore gotta be to stuff a canoe down it? And the powder charge....gotta be big! :haha: :haha: :hmm:

 

[FearNot]

Let's see... an elephant gun is for shooting elephants... and a buffalo gun is for shooting buffalos... therefore a caonoe gun must be for shooting... :crackup: :crackup:

 

[dodgecity]

Yup, and then there are the "wall guns". Guess they don't have to be real accurate since a wall is pretty big, and doesn't move around much.

 

[CrackStock]

Actually, a "Canoe Gun" is short barrel smoothbore. As I understand it, the early ML version of a "Coach Gun" is also a short barrel smoothbore but with a flared muzzle which eases loading. I am confident that the term and concept of canoe gun are fairly recent. The idea is that a more manuverable gun could be useful in certain situations beyond a coach. There are examples of guns that were damaged and cut off, and there are examples of coach guns as well. (I suspect that these modern guns have more to do with a bit of left over barrel and stock material than anything else.)

Having no real evidence that coach guns were common in the ML age, I would not want to purchase one. On the other hand, the gun that I saw was very well made and attractive. For the $5 raffle ticket, it would have been very nice.

CS

 

[Rat]

Well the terms are not all that important really, and there's nothing wrong with all kinds of muzzle-loaders. I was just kind of refering to another thread where coach vs. canoe gun vs. blunderbuss/thundergun were discussed at length.

Acutally I'm the kind of guy that WANTS every neat gun I see, whether I could actually use it or not...and really there are few firearms I don't like, I can only think of one...otherwise as long as it burns powder and spits lead...!!

If price were no object, I'd probably have half a dozen "canoe guns". As it is, my next gun will be a single shot pistol, and way down the line a small calibre longrifle. Heck yes, I'd buy a raffle ticket for a nice "canoe gun". (then I'd call it my COACH GUN!!)

I'm sure that short, sawed off muskets and smoothbores were useful in the ML age, just as they are now. I'm not sure there is any evidence that human nature has changed, regarding personal weapons, whether they load from the breech or muzzle. People are still sawing off shotguns, laws forbidding it and all.

At any rate hope this makes some sense and it not too far off topic.

ff: :yakyak: :sleep: :what: :sorry:

 

[tg]

I suspect that the term "short gun" may have been used to describe an ubuaually short barreled gun in the past, as in "John Williams when traveling to the wilderness country to trade with the natives carried his goods on two horses, the third he rode cradling his short gun across the pommel"

 

[CrackStock]

Sorry, I must have missed that earlier conversation. What I know on the topic came from Mike Nesbitt.

I also agree that there are uses for most types of guns even if I do not have a use for them. But my point was that it was good to see that Jackie was back to work and putting out quality flintlocks after a period where I saw none of his guns on the market and heard no word from him.

It is always good to see a good ML source back in action.

YMHS,
CrackStock