Primitive Sight for TC Hawken

[roundball]

Got TC primitive sights in todays mail...the rear sight stands straight up in the dovetail of the sight base...no tilt forward or backward...so at first glance it would appear to be symetrical and install either direction.

However, one side of the rear sight blade has a concave face dished out on it, and I think that side goes towards the front so the shooter sees the flat back wall of the rear sight.

Is this correct?

 

[Stumpkiller]

Yes. The dished out face is away from your eye. You want the smooth face towards you.

 

[roundball]

Yes. The dished out face is away from your eye. You want the smooth face towards you.

Thanks!


FYI...I set the primitive rear sight on a TC round ball barrel, right behind the existing adjustable target sight.
It's the same physical size/height, and the vertical slot lines right up with the slot in the target sight.
And to honest, the existing front sight looks perfectly matched and normal when sighting through the rear sight.

From posts I've seen, do I understand correctly that I should find a 25 yard zero with one light powder charge, then find the powder charges that will produce a 50 and a 100 yard zero using the same sight picture?

 

[Stumpkiller]

From posts I've seen, do I understand correctly that I should find a 25 yard zero with one light powder charge, then find the powder charges that will produce a 50 and a 100 yard zero using the same sight picture?

I do it about the opposite. I start at the volume around where I want my hunting load and shoot a few targets at 25 yards (just because that isn't as far to walk). I change 5 grains at a time. When I get what I want as far as grouping with a powerful enough load, I back up to 50 yards and start to adjust the sights (and do a few powder variations to see if I can't coax a little more accuracy out with a change, 2 gr at a time). Once I have that range set (I go for 1 or 2" high), then I start to work up a light load that shoots point of aim at 25 yards.

 

RB on your order from D@R is there a phone no# on it ,seems the one on the web page is out of order,would like to find out before I place a order if the items are in stock,I did e mail them but have gotten no reply

 

[roundball]

RB on your order from D@R is there a phone no# on it ,seems the one on the web page is out of order,would like to find out before I place a order if the items are in stock,I did e mail them but have gotten no reply

LW, the phone number on the packing slip is:

570-735-1752

 

[tg]

Does the original fron sight remain? if so how does one adjust for elevation if it cannot be gained as needed on the rear sight?

 

[roundball]

Does the original fron sight remain? if so how does one adjust for elevation if it cannot be gained as needed on the rear sight?

There was also an optional straight blade primitive front sight made...D&R Sports didn't happen to have any left in stock...checking a couple places now...will start out with the existing front sight and see what gives

 

[freetrapper20]

If they are the same sights I tried a ways back you file them to adjust for elevation. They were a bit high to give you some room to file'em down. You can always file the front site too. I had one gun with each type of front sight (Flat and bead) and they both worked fine without changing the front sights.

 

[roundball]

If they are the same sights I tried a ways back you file them to adjust for elevation. They were a bit high to give you some room to file'em down. You can always file the front site too. I had one gun with each type of front sight (Flat and bead) and they both worked fine without changing the front sights.

That's the conclusion I came to last night when I made a temporary check with the primitive rear sight on the barrel.

But I'm one of those who always adjusts and uses his sights with the front bead in the very bottom of the rear sight notch...so it's going to be interesting to experiment with a fixed rear sight.

If I want to continue to "sight" that way, no amount of filing the top off the rear sight will have any effect, and the work will have to be done on the front sight...otherwise, I'm going to have to use the sighting approach of having the front sight flush with the top of the rear sight, and file adjust accordingly.

I'll start out by staying with my normal sighting approach, and play with powder charges to see if I can find a reasonable one that'll give me a 50yard zero...then run some tests to see what "hold" differences are required at 100 yards, etc.

However, if it should turn out that I MUST change sighting alignment procedures, this primitive sight option will be short lived...not going to be faced with trying to remember which rifle I'm holding as I'm lining up on a nice buck during deer season, and I'm sure not interested in changing over all my rifles...so if I'm lucky, I'll find a charge(s) that will work

 

[Stumpkiller]

However, if it should turn out that I MUST change sighting alignment procedures, this primitive sight option will be short lived...not going to be faced with trying to remember which rifle I'm holding as I'm lining up on a nice buck during deer season

THAT is why I always sight for my big-game hunting load first and foremost. If I misjudge a squirrel or bunny it's a "harumph" and try again later. (And if you noticed my 25 yard TMA targets, I was under the "X" every shot :redface: ). I always go a few fingers high at 50 yards, so I am point-blank on deer with a center-chest hold out almost to 100 without thinking about holdover or under.

 

[Tahquamenon]

I've got a few rifles with retangular blade target front and rear sights and I've found the best shooting for me is to put the POI on top of the front sight when it's lined up flush and centered with the rear sight.
I find the the front blade always obstructs my POI view otherwise.

Excactly the opposite with my ML's that have hunting bead sights. The center of the front bead itself is the POI when bottom/centered in the rear sight.

Not sure if this is the right or wrong way to sight things with the two different types of sights, but it's how I was taught and has always worked well for me.

I'm also interested on how you manage with changing the rear sight only to fixed. Keeping tuned in here.

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