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Proper Camo for deer huntin?

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John Wasmuth

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I gota chuckle at some friends of mine, say ya gota wear the proper camo, it has to cost so much, you have to use an inline that shots a million miles a minute, otherwise ya can't kill a deer. I just got done guttin thisun here, used the clothes I am wearin in the photo, an old CVA .45 Kentucky, 80 grains of FFg, and a 128 grain patched roundball at 60 yards. God I love black powder huntin!
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:grin:
sounds like the same folks who say you have to cover up all the shiny brass on a rifle or it'll spook the deer
:grin:
 
That is really good camo. I don't even see you. Who's the fella next to the deer? :rotf:
 
cant see the picture for all that shiny brass!! :rotf:
Seriously-congrats on a mess of fine table fare
 
I took a button buck on my management permit this morning at about 15 feet while I sat on a stump (first deer I ever killed with a center-fire rifle). He looked right at me, and right past. 100% blaze orange from my anlkes to my hat. It's just a neutral gray to them. In this get-up I've taken probably six deer within 30 feet over the years. It's motion that gives you away. Camo just makes you look like a big, dangerous, moving stump. You'd run from a big moving stump with arms and eyes. I sure would.

A bowhunting friend and I took a bunch of black & white pictures of various camo and hunting clothes. Red plaid is pretty darned good. Green plaid wasn't bad against evergreens and dark tree trunks. Blaze was best against snow, dried leaves, and light tree trunks. Treebark looks like a big, dark thing.

I thought a rifle would be more impressive than this was. :haha: 7.62X54R (between a .308 and a 30-06). No better results than a round ball, and actually I've had much better blood trails and instant collapses with balls. Almost no hair on the ground at the impact site. Poor little cuss put another 30 yards on before he folded up. Tiny entry wound, Exit wound was fist-sized hamburger, lungs were salsa, but very little blood. They'll never catch on.
 
Stumpkiller said:
I took a button buck on my management permit this morning at about 15 feet while I sat on a stump (first deer I ever killed with a center-fire rifle). He looked right at me, and right past. 100% blaze orange from my anlkes to my hat. It's just a neutral gray to them. In this get-up I've taken probably six deer within 30 feet over the years. It's motion that gives you away. Camo just makes you look like a big, dangerous, moving stump. You'd run from a big moving stump with arms and eyes. I sure would.

I thought a rifle would be more impressive than this was. :haha: 7.62X54R (between a .308 and a 30-06). No better results than a round ball, and actually I've had much better blood trails and instant collapses with balls. Almost no hair on the ground at the impact site. Tiny entry wound, Exit wound was fist-sized hamburger, but very little blood. They'll never catch on.


All right...the Stump-Man Cometh...first blood!!
:hatsoff:
(You gonna eat him? Donate him?)

And I agree 100%...blaze orange, shiny brass, etc, none of it means a thing...wind direction and movement are everything.

Congratulations...now you got to get one with your Flinter! :grin:
 
He's already on the kielbasa line. We eat 'em, you betcha. :haha: I wouldn't have brought him up here as it wasn't a proper m/l kill.

Kind of neat that the rules changed and I had an excuse to use my 1942 M39 Finnish Mosin-Nagant surplus rifle. Where I hunt it is absolutely no advantage at all, except that rain was called for (and never came). Here I was hoping for that 150 yard shot on a big 'ol buck, but I had to check out a old spot where the visibility is about 30 yards, tops. :haha: Old habits.

I also wondered how the change would effect the local hunting. It sure did. Saturday I counted 16 shots in rapid sucession. Turns out a buck cut across a field near where I was and all the nimrods with their scoped rifles were hopping him across the field like rolling a can with a .22 revolver. The fellow who had the first shot in it (whose driveway I park in) says he had no second thoughts about giving it to the guy who "brought it down", as it had about seven holes in it when it stopped rolling.

I saw one antlerless at about 200 yards yesterday, nothing Saturday. Everyone is sitting on the edge of fields instead of pushing the woodlots and brush. As I feared, it has changed the hunting situation. Time to adapt again.

I never approved of camo during regular season before. You couldn't give me a nice enough set of wool camo now to convince me to wear it with these bubbas hereabouts.
 
Stumpkiller said:
Kind of neat that the rules changed and I had an excuse to use my 1942 M39 Finnish Mosin-Nagant surplus rifle. Where I hunt it is absolutely no advantage at all, except that rain was called for (and never came). Here I was hoping for that 150 yard shot on a big 'ol buck, but I had to check out a old spot where the visibility is about 30 yards, tops. :haha: Old habits.

:rotf:

Sounds like the time when I scrimped and saved to buy a beautiful Remington 700/.264 Winchester Magnum, and then a big Leupold scope so I could shoot a deer a couple soybean fields away...only taken a few deer with it and none were over 50yds away!
:rotf:

These muzzleloaders have really messed me up...all my centerfires just lay oiled in their cases :(
 
Is it legal to use rifles statewide in NY now, Stumpy? I knew a lot of guys in PA who bought inlines and rifled slug guns to hunt in NY before it was legal to use any ML other than a flinter in PA, and nobody uses shotguns in deer season around here.

I wonder if the PA sporting goods stores will have trouble selling those slug guns and combo pumps now.

I refuse to wear camouflage to hunt colorblind animals. I am more worried about being detected by their sense of smell than anything.
 
Must have been a horrific fight. That guys got a bandaged head! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :blah:
 
Mornin Micanopy ,
I got a better one for your friends, They sell camo saddles for a horse for when you deer hunt,, A camo saddle?? For what?? A deer don't care bout a horse, I hunt by mine, Which ever blind I use, they come over and stay by me,, They tell me when and where a deer is comin from, Ya think if a deer can't sea the middle of a horse it will get closer? On horse back, back here I can get close enough to a deer to rope em,, A camo saddle,,, I love it,,
 
Almost EVERYTHING is available in camo now. I have seen women's thongs in camo, toilet paper in camo, and a guy that I knew that ran a surplus store had condoms in camo. Yup, condoms. Their motto was "Don't let 'em see you coming!" :rotf:

(true stuff there!)
 
Pork Chop said:
Almost EVERYTHING is available in camo now. I have seen women's thongs in camo, toilet paper in camo, and a guy that I knew that ran a surplus store had condoms in camo. Yup, condoms. Their motto was "Don't let 'em see you coming!" :rotf:

(true stuff there!)
camo condoms,, And I thought a camo saddle was bad,, :rotf:
 
Yeah, I thought that they were hilarious when I saw them. I should have picked one up as a gag during hunting season. Oh well...
 
Nice shooting guys. :hatsoff:

Camo stuff = $$$$$$ Don't ya love it when they show these TV guys hunting out of tree stand blinds and they all got camo on? :youcrazy:
I remember seeing pictures of Fred Bear bowhunting, on the ground, in work pants and a green flannel shirt. It's all about movement and scent.
 
Is it legal to use rifles statewide in NY now, Stumpy?

Nope. Tioga County allowed them this year.

Saw a fellow on an ATV this morning in full camo except for a gray rag-wool watch cap. Now that's something I want to do: present a gray moving object on the back-side of a hedgerow. Especially along the shooting galleries some fields become.

Here's the good news (indulge me while I stick this in). Storm front pushing through: 20-30 mph winds and rain, called to turn to 3" of snow by nightfall. Sat in my funnel spot between fields this morning and thought: "hmmm, cold, wet and windy, barometer dropping with a bad storm coming, if I was a deer I'd be on a south face, near cover, and sheltered from the wind. Walked a mile to the other side of the road and humped up the hill to find the spot I wanted (near where the ATV went past at about 9:00AM). Again, I was in full blaze orange (with the removeable hood on, even, which I only do whan it's nasty). Found a spot, near where someone had chopped out a landing zone for his deer stand (I get a kick out of tree stand hunters who feel the need to defoliate everything within 30 yards of their stand. What deer steps out into a clearing?) Anyway, I found a spot nearby in the thick stuff with a couple windows and settled in. I put my back to the thick stuff, figuring the deer would be going there, and it was nicely blocked from the west by a steep 60 ft high ridge, with a hemlock swamp farther down the hill behind me. To get there I looped above the cover and buttonhooked back down into the spot from the open field above.

About half-an hour later I spotted movement and saw a buck lowering his head to look under a branch at me from maybe 40 yards out. "Poo" he saw me first. But he raised his head again and then looked downhill. I figured next time he moved I would snap the gun up and fire, as he would have to turn either direction to leave - giving me a broadside. Instead, he took a step and I raised the gun, and he took another step. Now, this is with me sitting facing him with nothing but low wild-rose thorns and blackberries that had beed crushed down by snow and frost already. Sitting at ground level on a tree-seat facing him from 33 paces. In other words, he had me dead Planters. But he didn't notice me, didn't react to me aiming the gun. Did react to the shot. :grin: I don't think any camo would have helped a bit. Blaze orange works for me.

This one is especially sweet because my plan to hunt the poor conditions worked almost immediately. That, or dumb luck. Either is good.

I wish I could say it was a flintlock, but it again was the bolt-action (with open, iron sights). :redface: A beautiful eight point that weighs about what I do, which is a good deer by any account.

Not up to Roundball's standards, but I'm mighty pleased. :haha: Old Grandad is helping me work some of the aches out from the mile drag with this deer that kept grabbing trees and picking up rocks. Must be 350 lbs, at least it felt that way. Well, maybe 190. Dragged it right past where the camo-clad ATV driver had his stand; which is also where the deer came from. Suppose it waited for him to leave and then made for the heavy cover? Oh, I hope so.
:rotf:
 
Great story!
:bow:

Great hunting savvy to change with the changing conditions!
:bow: :bow:

If you'd have had a good hard crusted snow on the ground, you could have ridden him downhill like a toboggan!!
:grin:

Congratulations Stumpman! :hatsoff:



(now go put that space age thing away and get a real gun !!)
:grin:
 
The only reason I wear full camo in the fall to deer hunt is because of the turkeys. (I hunt private land, no hunter orange requirements.) I don't know how many times turkeys have spotted my orange safety harness (I hunt in a tree stand) and spooked the deer. I traded the orange harness for a camo one this year, and the turkeys never knew I was there.
 
I've got thoughts on that, too (I've got thoughts on everything :grin: ). Where I hunt I see lots of turkey. If I sit still I've had them pass within 20 or 30 yards very often. I don't think turkeys associate blaze orange with danger . . . unless you move. A turkey will freak at anything above it that moves, the young get 'et by owls, goshawks, etc. On the ground they know they can out fly or out run me. I counted 19 that went past on opening day at about 30 yards and they just fed and milled in the same direction without spooking. When I'm still hunting I kick 'em out from FAR ahead. Camo doesn't gain me much then, either.

If the turkeys see me at 100 yards because of the blaze orange they just work wide of me. No alarm given. No problems.
 

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