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tnlonghunter

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I finally got a chance to get out and shoot my 1858 Remmy today. It was the first time I've shot it since February (I think). If you notice that I'm in Michigan, that means the last time I shot it, it was pretty cold (around 35 degrees). Today was about 70 degrees, 95% humidity (since it had rained about 2 hours earlier).

I loaded with 25 gr. 3Fg, 3/16 felt wad lubed with Crisco, and .454 rb. Primers were RWS 1075. Now, the last time I shot that pistol, the recoil and report were quite noticeable. Not a problem or difficult to control - just very noticeable. However, this time it was almost like I had loaded with a half charge. In fact, the first shot, I thought it hadn't gone off. Not much recoil or noise.

I should mention I was on a woods walk also shooting my flinter. I'd loaded two cylinders, then waited to cap until on the firing position. That meant the adjustable measure I used was 500 yards away back at the prep area. There was already smoke in the air from my rifle, and I couldn't tell right away if smoke was from the pistol or rifle. So, I shot another with the same result.

Turns out it fired just fine, and I did quite well hitting small targets at 5-10 yards. But the whole time, I just felt like it wasn't shooting as powerfully as I remembered. I thought maybe I had just set the adjustable measure to 15 grains instead of 25 (wrong side of the 20 gr. mark). I shot all 12 shots and headed back, only to find that I did set the measure in the right place.

So here's my question. Is there any reason to believe that increased humidity and temperature (as well as more lube on my wads) would make the powder less effective? I mean, this felt like the difference between shooting a .38 special and a .22lr (maybe not that different, but close). Thoughts?
 
The powder could have absorbed some moisture from the ambient air or the wads, or both. This would cause less recoil, but might also leave behind more residue from unburned powder....so how was your residue? "Felt" recoil can differ on different days, and shooting a rifle on the same woods walk could have something to do with that as well. Did you notice any delay in ignition with the revolver, or did it go off right away? Oft times a bad load will hang-fire somewhat, especially if the powder gets damp and doesn't burn correctly/fully.

I'm glad that you had a good time and hit your targets--that's the real reason to be there in the first place. One last thought: Did you shave off any lead from the balls when loading the revolver's cylinder chambers? Could you have loaded a "just big enough ball" (no lead shaved off) to stay in the cylinder? Reason that I ask is to remind you that less friction creates less felt recoil. Any of the balls "jump" towards the front of the chambers in the cylinder? That's the tell-tale sign of having your balls not fit right :shocked2: .

Well I have asked about as many questions as I've answered, so I'll wait for some others to write-in on this one.

Dave
 
Thanks for the thoughts. There were good rings shaved from all the balls with a good, tight fit. There also were not any hang-fires. Everything clicked right along like I thought it would, except for the perceived power of the load.

I suppose it must have been the combined humidity and lube, plus the comparison to my rifle's recoil.
 
Your grip will make a big difference in "felt recoil" as well.
I've noticed that with my '58 Remmy if I have my grip too high on the grip I "feel more recoil", even with the same load.
 
I have had the same thing happen if I get to much lube on the wads it fouls the powder then cuts it
back just like a very light load
 

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