Question on lock & breech plug

[burch]

I bought a fowling scraper for my new smoothie. It seems pretty bumpy when I try to turn it on the breech. Should the breech be polished smooth ?

Also, when the frizzen is in the open position ( away from the pan like you where going to prime the pan ) it wobbles like it`s loose. Is this normal ?

burch :idunno:

 

[Keb]

Your breech plug may be notched for the vent hole.

The wobbly frizzen may be a good thing. You can probably remove it without taking off the spring for field cleaning. Then again, it could be worn out or someone improperly ground the foot.

I'm guessing on all this so don't be mad at me if I'm wrong.

 

[Rifleman1776]

I bought a fowling scraper for my new smoothie. It seems pretty bumpy when I try to turn it on the breech. Should the breech be polished smooth ?

Also, when the frizzen is in the open position ( away from the pan like you where going to prime the pan ) it wobbles like it`s loose. Is this normal ?

burch :idunno:

Breech does need to be inspected. Use a good bore lite. If breech face is rough or has a threading shaving in there (it happens), it will have to be removed and the offending stuff polished out.
Depending on how wobbly and whether it closes firmly, you might/might not have to do a fix-it. Do you have someone knowledgable that can look at it for you?

 

[rich pierce]

Check to see if you have a touchhole liner that may be extending into the bore a bit. This will cause no end of problems with catching jags, tow, fouling, etc.

 

[roundball]

"...when the frizzen is in the open position ( away from the pan like you where going to prime the pan ) it wobbles like it`s loose.
Is this normal ?

I can only comment based on my own experience with several T/C Hawken Flintlocks and now a few Chambers deluxe silers:
I've never had one appear loose.
They are either clamped down on the pan firmly when closed, or they are all firmly sort of 'locked back' under spring tension when in the open position.

Now if you mean that when open, you can use the strength of your fingers/hand and twist it to make it kind of 'wink' a little, it's possible the frizzen pivot screw could be worn down some allowing that to happen.
:idunno:

 

[burch]

This is a brand new smoothie.

 

[burch]

No touch hole liner. It`s just coned and drilled.

 

[burch]

I used a bore light and it looks like it`s machined ( i think i spelled that right )with some sort of pattern around it. Also, this is suppose to be a brand new L&R lock.

 

[Robby]

It is possible that when the breech plug was seated it raised an edge around the bore. If that is it, the only way I know of fixing it is to pull the plug and file it off.
The frizzen wobbles how? On its axle or is it that it is no longer in contact with the frizzen spring?
L&R!
Robby

 

[burch]

on it`s axle. almost like the axle too small in dia.

 

[roundball]

on it`s axle. almost like the axle too small in dia.

That's why I was wondering if the pivot screw was worn, until you mentioned it was brand new

 

[Swede50]

hotoSmile:

 

[Pigslayer]

I used a bore light and it looks like it`s machined ( i think i spelled that right )with some sort of pattern around it. Also, this is suppose to be a brand new L&R lock.

I, and an accomplished local gunbuilder that I see at gunshows were discussing L&R lock quality. Both of us have had to rework brand new L&R locks to get them to work & fit properly & the concensus was that we shouldn't have to do that when paying (at that time) $130.00 for a lock. I stay away from L&R locks now.
There is no way that your frizzen should wobble.
I have good luck with Jim Chambers locks.