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Real Black Powder in Washington state
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bob aliano
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A search turned up a recent Seattle newspaper article about re-enactors wanting to up the legal limit for BP possession; this was in the article:
"...in Washington state, the legal limit for storing and transporting black powder is five pounds."
"...in Washington state, the legal limit for storing and transporting black powder is five pounds."
bob aliano
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Just a post to attract attention, when this was moved all views and replies numbers disappeared.
Had lengthy discussion about this with the local Fire Marshall and Sheriff.There is a 5# limit on storage on your residential property but you can store 50# in a vehicle and park it in your driveway.You can transport up to 50# since thats federal law.A gun shop has very stringent rules on storage and record keeping that make it impractical for most shops to carry it.The only places I know that carry it anywhere near me is in Shelton and in Puyallup.As an aside the local authorities said they had other things to do than check my garage and shed for black powder.They did point out that if I had a fire and the powder went off I could have some insurance problems.
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Don't know that I'd want 50# of BP sitting in a vehicle in my driveway! I keep one pound that I'm using and one pound backup but I don't shoot all that often.
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I just bought two pounds of 3F last week up in Skagit. Not an issue.
What appears to be an issue for us in Wa. is written in this article.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/116114409.html
What appears to be an issue for us in Wa. is written in this article.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/116114409.html
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The gasoline in your car's tank is far more flammable and explosive than BP is! :shocked2: :idunno: 
:hmm:
BP is shipped in Semi-trailer trucks carrying thousands of pounds, in nothing more than the corrogated cardboard boxes you get when you buy a case!
Store the powder in the original shipping box, in a COOL, DRY, location. In hot country, the coolest place will be in or on top of the ground, or as close to it as is possible AND keep it DRY!. For Example, A friend of mine stores a case or two of powder in his garage, in a corner away from windows and the doors where direct sunlight might shine on the boxes. The floor is cement, which represents a HUGE heat sink, taking all day to warm up, and then giving off that heat slowly all night long. He puts the box(es) of powder up on boards to keep it dry, in case of a heavy rain storm.
Old refrigerators, or freezers can also be used for storing BP, but if you are going to actually turn on these appliances to cool anything, then wrap the cans or bottles of BP in plastic baggies to keep moisture out. Dessicant packs can be obtained from a variety of sources. Put a couple of them inside the plastic bags with the powder. They will prevent surface rust on powder cans.
With the insulation already in the refrigerator or freezer, neither of these has to be working to store powder. The best part of old appliances is that you can put hasps and locks on them to keep curious children and irresponsible adults OUT.
As to explosions, the cans that hold the BP have a soldered seam long their length, which opens at very low pressure, allowing to burn rather than explode. The new plastic bottles will split or allow the top to blow off at even lower pressures, so that the powder will burn rather than explode. Yes, it burns like a 4th of July
"Roman Candle" firecracker, and can start other fires, but that gas in the can in your garage for your lawn mower is a much more likely source of an explosion!
I was one of those kids who messed around with powders, when I was too young to know better. I made my first bomb, and my first zip gun when I was only 8 yrs. old. I was considered "retarded" in my education by the standards of other kids in the neighborhood, however! :shocked2: :grin: I have since taken every opportunity to mess around answering these kinds of questions with other "older" kids in my local gun club.
To find out what a can of powder would do to a deadfall tree blocking the river next to the club, we taped a can to the trunk's base, and lit it off with a fuse. The splitting of the seam on the can was hindered by the tape, but the top and bottom of the can blew off. It blew some bark off the trunk, and sent it everywhere, but didn't do much damage to the tree at all!
We eventually had to use chain saws to remove the tree. :hmm:
:hmm: BP is shipped in Semi-trailer trucks carrying thousands of pounds, in nothing more than the corrogated cardboard boxes you get when you buy a case!
Store the powder in the original shipping box, in a COOL, DRY, location. In hot country, the coolest place will be in or on top of the ground, or as close to it as is possible AND keep it DRY!. For Example, A friend of mine stores a case or two of powder in his garage, in a corner away from windows and the doors where direct sunlight might shine on the boxes. The floor is cement, which represents a HUGE heat sink, taking all day to warm up, and then giving off that heat slowly all night long. He puts the box(es) of powder up on boards to keep it dry, in case of a heavy rain storm.
Old refrigerators, or freezers can also be used for storing BP, but if you are going to actually turn on these appliances to cool anything, then wrap the cans or bottles of BP in plastic baggies to keep moisture out. Dessicant packs can be obtained from a variety of sources. Put a couple of them inside the plastic bags with the powder. They will prevent surface rust on powder cans.
With the insulation already in the refrigerator or freezer, neither of these has to be working to store powder. The best part of old appliances is that you can put hasps and locks on them to keep curious children and irresponsible adults OUT.
As to explosions, the cans that hold the BP have a soldered seam long their length, which opens at very low pressure, allowing to burn rather than explode. The new plastic bottles will split or allow the top to blow off at even lower pressures, so that the powder will burn rather than explode. Yes, it burns like a 4th of July
"Roman Candle" firecracker, and can start other fires, but that gas in the can in your garage for your lawn mower is a much more likely source of an explosion!
I was one of those kids who messed around with powders, when I was too young to know better. I made my first bomb, and my first zip gun when I was only 8 yrs. old. I was considered "retarded" in my education by the standards of other kids in the neighborhood, however! :shocked2: :grin: I have since taken every opportunity to mess around answering these kinds of questions with other "older" kids in my local gun club.
To find out what a can of powder would do to a deadfall tree blocking the river next to the club, we taped a can to the trunk's base, and lit it off with a fuse. The splitting of the seam on the can was hindered by the tape, but the top and bottom of the can blew off. It blew some bark off the trunk, and sent it everywhere, but didn't do much damage to the tree at all!
We eventually had to use chain saws to remove the tree. :hmm:Similar threads
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