rear sights without notches and other sight questions

[alaskasmoker]

So im trying to settle on some sort of rear sight. Id really like it to be adjustable. most of the fixed sights in the TOW catalog have no notches cut into them that I can see. whats the deal with that?

I saw a peep that Id really like to put on. It pretty much looks like a standard rear but has a circle on it. Im not talking about a tang mounted or anything like that.

What would I get for a front sight to match up with it?

And if I get a fixed rear how do I adjust elevation, file on the front sight? How do you chose a front sight that you know will have enough material to file off?

 

[TANSTAAFL]

So im trying to settle on some sort of rear sight. Id really like it to be adjustable. most of the fixed sights in the TOW catalog have no notches cut into them that I can see. whats the deal with that?

I saw a peep that Id really like to put on. It pretty much looks like a standard rear but has a circle on it. Im not talking about a tang mounted or anything like that.

What would I get for a front sight to match up with it?

And if I get a fixed rear how do I adjust elevation, file on the front sight? How do you chose a front sight that you know will have enough material to file off?

Do you mean this one? If so, I use them and find they are great, OMMV.
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(q...d=14&subId=167&styleId=768&partNum=RS-CA-PEEP

 

[paulvallandigham]

For a peep sight to work properly, the sight need to be located about 5 inches from your eye. For most people, this is the reason its mounted on the tang.

As for a front sight, you can use any front sight you like with an aperture sight. When the eye is close enough to the peep, it will naturally center the peep as you look THROUGH THE SIGHT, and never at it. Just put the front sight where you are accustomed to putting the sight on your target, and fire. Adjustable peep sights allow you to zero the sights for both windage and elevation.

If you are only going to shoot targets, many shooters will find a lollipop-style front sight that matched the width of the bullseye they are shooting at. Some even have wings that allow the front sight to be centered on the bull. I have seen an standard post used to shoot some amazing scores, as well. Use what works for you best. That will usually be what you are most comfortable with, based on your training and experience.

As to the rear sights without notches, the suppliers are providing these sight to builders who wish to made their own notches of their own dimension. With my bad eyes, I shoot much better with a wide notch, so that I see as much daylight on both sides of the front sight, seen through the notch, as the front sight post is wide. I usually have to file open sight notches on most rifles, because they don't come with wide notches.

Others, with good eyes, like small notches, but some will like a square bottom, and others a round bottom, and others are more used to shooting a V bottom rear sight notch.

 

[alaskasmoker]

Yep that is the one. It really looks like the ticket for me. IVe got a williams peep on another gun I shoot that is mounted on the barrel and I really like it, thats why I want another peep.

Maybe Ideally Id want to get a adjustable williams and fit that one but it would detract from the rustic flair

Thanks for the info Paul, that helped out alot.

 

[smokehouseman]

I've got that same sight on my GPR .54 and just love it! One thing I did to mine was to put some white paint on the front sight and then covered that with florissant orange and then put some a dab if Super Glue to make it adhere better. I've got the old eyes going for my and this helps greatly. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[windwalker_au]

So im trying to settle on some sort of rear sight. Id really like it to be adjustable. most of the fixed sights in the TOW catalog have no notches cut into them that I can see. whats the deal with that?

I saw a peep that Id really like to put on. It pretty much looks like a standard rear but has a circle on it. Im not talking about a tang mounted or anything like that.

What would I get for a front sight to match up with it?

And if I get a fixed rear how do I adjust elevation, file on the front sight? How do you chose a front sight that you know will have enough material to file off?

get one of these its a marbles full buckhorn rear sight it has elevation ajustment and you can remove the the u notch part and use as a peep sight realy good with a siver blade front sight at dusk,you can get them from buffalo arms they are around 17/18 bucks last time i looked.
bernie :thumbsup:

 

[Mike Brooks]

MMMMmmmmmm Mince Pies.......

 

[TANSTAAFL]

For a peep sight to work properly, the sight need to be located about 5 inches from your eye. For most people, this is the reason its mounted on the tang.

Wrongo, there are several rifles utilizing aperture sights to good effect mounted forward down the barrel.

Williams makes forward mounted peep sight for SKS, and I think they know a thing or two about aperture sights.

Mojo makes similar ones for both AK and SKS.

 

[paulvallandigham]

Actually, those sights are more like the old TUBE sight, which was used before lens were added to give magnification. You can take any tube of just about any length, and place it much more forward on the barrel, than a peep sight is placed, and your eye will look through it. However, tube sights seem to work best when they are forward enough that your eye is focused on Infinity, rather than at something an inch or so from your eye. This is also the " secret" about Scout scope sights, when compared to the traditional rifle scope, that rarely will let you have " eye relief " of more than 1 1/2 inch from the optic lens. The Scout scope takes advantage of your eye's focus on infinity when looking down range at the target, so by being placed forward on the barrel. The eye does not have to refocus for a shorter distance, to see through the scope, as it does with the traditional riflescope. We have also discovered that we don't need as much magnification to shoot well with Scout style scopes, compared to the Traditional ones.

The same concepts are being adapted for use on military rifles, such as the one you mentioned. The Red Dot scopes, the Holoscopes, and C-More sites, as well as Night vision scopes are all using this infinity focus to help the shooter focus on the sight and target faster.

The same tube sight is returning to use on front sights, with " hoods " returning as an integral part of the sight system. Functionally, the " hoods" on some modern hunting sights are performing exactly as do the longer tubes on olympic target sights. Some of the new hunting sights even provide for removable blades so that the shooter can match the front sight to his target, or game.

 

[windwalker_au]

MMMMmmmmmm Mince Pies.......

ah we thinkum alike :rotf: :rotf: :rot
Bernie :hatsoff:

 

[Herb]

Tanstaafl's link is the sight you want, "Fixed Sight with Peep, #RS-CA-Peep". One front sight that works well with it is Track's "Tall Silver Blade, #FS-TC-TW-B", which is .080 thick. Once you have your muzzleloader sighted in, you don't need adjustable sights. To zero, you tap them right or left as needed and then file the front sight down to bring the shots higher to your desired point of impact on the target. I put these sights on a .58 fullstock flintlock Hawken I recently built, and I like them. I aim with the top of the post in the middle of the hole. If I use another of these sights, I'll make a change to the "peep". The center of the circle "peep" is above the flat of the sight. I'd saw that peep out and solder it in lower so the center would be even with the flat. Just how I'd improve it- it works well as it is.