received renegade .56, pitted bore!

[walruskid1]

received my renegade, bore is disappointing. last 6" of bore pitted and rough. rest of bore looks fine. took 25-30 patches to clean it up. i can send it back if i want to, still thinking about it. can they still shoot o.k. like this?

 

[roundball]

received my renegade, bore is disappointing. last 6" of bore pitted and rough. rest of bore looks fine. took 25-30 patches to clean it up. i can send it back if i want to, still thinking about it. can they still shoot o.k. like this?

I know that's disappointing when you buy something in good faith, etc...if the transaction is going to eat at you regardless if it shoots or not, send it back while you can.

On the other hand, if you got it dirt cheap, and won't be worried about resale value later on, try it and see...I don't think it's automatic that a pitted barrel will shoot poorly...probably depends on how much and how deep the pits are...if you use an over powder wad to help seal, might not be a problem at all.

I bought a used .45cal TC Hawken just to get the pretty stock...barrel has several "freckles" (light pitting) in the first few inches of the bore...but it's perfectly accurate with both round balls and maxi-hunters.

But if every time you look down that bore you're going to be aggravated by it, then send it back and be done with it.

PS:
There's a brand new .56cal SB barrel on auction right now...and GM makes .54cal drop in smoothbore barrels.

 

[bpollock_sr]

If the price was right and you decide to keep it , you could always remove those 6 inches and make a canoe gun out of it.

 

[musketman]

You can lap a smoothbore you know...

 

[walruskid1]

musketman - tell me more...

 

[roundball]

musketman - tell me more...

Just remember...if a simple lapping will clean up the pitting, then the pits aren't enough to worry about.

But if you're talking about removing serious metal like a few thousandths of an inch...like a honing operation would...then you'll be enlarging the cyclinder bore diameter well beyond it's .560 cal that it already is...along a several inch length...and might create a worse situation than the scattered pits themselves would cause.

 

[taylorh]

Sorry to hear about your .56. With most auctions you have 3 days to inspect it. It doesn't really matter wether the pits are big or small, you should get what you paid for. On the other hand if the gun looks good otherwise you might consider contacting the seller and giving him the option of having you mail it back to him at his expense or refunding to you a dollar value equal to the degree of pitting. But if it is pitted too badly near the crown I'd send it back no matter what.
Taylor in Texas

 

[SCATTERSHOT]

Well, that's a real shame. I can tell that you were really excited to get the gun, and it must be a real letdown to find that it has a pitted bore. You could try to hone the bore, as has been suggested, or send it to someone to be cleaned up. If the gun was a real bargain, the extra 40-50 bucks might be money well spent. On the other hand, if you paid top dollar, I'd send it back and keep looking.

JMHO

 

[walruskid1]

i really am very bummed about it. still not sure what i'm going to do. going to check with the seller and see if he will sweeten the deal. if not i'll probably be sending it back.

 

[musketman]

musketman - tell me more...

Here is an older thread on lapping that is good, plus it has a lapping link...
[url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/21887[/url]/

 

[cptleo1]

If you like it

Jug choke it

Cheap and easy

 

[WV_Hillbilly]

received my renegade, bore is disappointing. last 6" of bore pitted and rough. rest of bore looks fine. took 25-30 patches to clean it up. i can send it back if i want to, still thinking about it. can they still shoot o.k. like this?

While it is true that you can hone or lap the bore if the pitting is not too deep, you can try it out just the way it is. Quite a few years back I had one that was in similar condition as your's. The bore looked great except for that last few inches.
Let me tell you... the gun shot fine! Just as good as any other smoothbore that I had shot and I only had paid $80 for the gun. It was still worth that much in replacement parts, but I had a keeper!

I made my own little lapping tool out of 3/8 dowel, some 600gr paper and wrapped it with #0000 steel wool and a little bit of Kroil sprayed on it and chucked it up in a variable speed B&D drill. It probably took 75% of the nastiness out, so that wasnt too bad for a home-made tool. I got a lot of use out of that gun before I swapped it off much later.

Since they are a "hunters' gun", they are rather plain, but you can spiff it up a bit and make it more personal. Obviously the price was nice, and it makes a good starting point for a Green Mt. drop in replacement barrel. So, don't sweat the pitting (for now anyway)and have yourself a little gun fun!

 

[walruskid1]

sending it back, seller replacing it.

 

[roundball]

sending it back, seller replacing it.

"Replacing it".....

With another barrel?
With another complete Renegade?

(just curious)

 

[walruskid1]

another complete renegade

 

[WV_Hillbilly]

another complete renegade

That is very "sporting" of the seller. Many people would have just let you "eat" the gun's cost, and then laughed about it all the way to the bank!

Is he going to pay shipping costs for HIS mistake? Since you are going to get another one, I am curious now... How many of these .56cal Renegades does the seller have? I wouldn't mind picking up another one myself... You can PM me with further info, if you want to.

I would have had to try that "pitted bore" gun out to see how it did. It may well surprise you how a "seemingly bad" bore can still shoot very well.

Regards, and Shoot Safely,
WV_Hillbilly

 

[musketman]

another complete renegade

Another complete Smoothbore Renegade???

 

[walruskid1]

yes, he had two .56 renegades. i should have it later this week. the best part about buying this rifle is that i paid for it with the check from ups for the damage claim i filed in sept. 05

 

[madstone]

I must have missed the beginning. Sorry. Is this a new gun? I'd ask for an exchange w an "unmolested bore". These here pits will cause trouble even if they's at the wrong end. That muzzle really counts double but pits will tear at the patch and upset the balls smooth path. They''ll harbor corrosive stuff, too. I've owned or seen some ML's with pitted bores that still shot "OK". I even had one with a bulge at the rear site dovetail ( Never loan a BP rifle to a friend w/o asking him NOT to try to clear a lodged load, PLEASE!)that shot "hunting good". Heck, I cain't shoot well enough this last decade or so I couldn't tell the difference anymore. :yakyak:

 

[walruskid1]

a replacment rifle showed up today, this one looks unfired. squeaky clean shiny bore, unpeened nipple, nice stock and a new ramrod. can't find any evidence of being fired. quite the opposite from the one i sent back. seller went out of his way to make it right. can't wait to get out and try it. :grin: