Remington 1858 New Army-Spare Parts Kit?

[FishDFly]

I have been thinking about buying the Remington New Army and was looking in Cabelas catalog since there are limited places to shop where I live.

On a couple of the pistols they offered a "Replacement Pistol Parts Kit" with about 6 different items.

Are these pistols that unreliable that you need that many spare parts?

Thanks

RDE

 

[Blizzard of '93]

due to cylinder pin fouling there is a load on the 'hand' and spring, it's good idea to have spares.

 

[Rebel]

No they are not that unreliable, but it is always a good idea to have spare parts for the unexpected part failure.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

No, they are not unreliable, but at the price, it is good to have the parts to avoid a fit if they quit. (pun intended) I bought the referenced kit, hoping I never need it, but felt best to be prepared.

 

[renovato]

The Piettas that Cabelas sells have been notorious for soft steel. With the load on the hand that Blizzard mentioned, I think having some spares on hand is a good idea. I'm forever seeing posts on various boards about folks replacing parts in their black powder revolvers, of all brands.

 

[Homesteader]

In my experience the cylinder stop spring is the one that breaks most often. I had a mainspring break on me twice in the 30 years I've had my Colt and Remmy. Only had the handspring go bad on me a couple of times. Quick and easy to fix, all of 'em, even when you have to file them to fit. I keep most of those springs on hand. I understand the old-timers did the same.

 

[Tinker2]

The cap & ball guns that Cabelas sell have come up in
quality a long way.

Having spare parts on land is just a good idea.




Tinker2

 

[mykeal]

Are these pistols that unreliable that you need that many spare parts?

Richard,

Are the tires on your car/truck so unreliable that you need to carry a spare?

No, but it's a reasonable thing to do, because if one does fail (whether due to its own fault or not) you are not left stranded without the use of the vehicle until a tow or repair truck arrives.

Also, the keeping of spare parts is a good hedge against the unreliability of the parts supply system and the package delivery system, both of which I consider a bigger crap shoot than my gun parts.

The Piettas that Cabelas sells have been notorious for soft steel. With the load on the hand that Blizzard mentioned, I think having some spares on hand is a good idea. I'm forever seeing posts on various boards about folks replacing parts in their black powder revolvers, of all brands.

Pietta, and Uberti and Euroarms and Palmetto and Armi San Marco, etc, all were 'notorious' for 'soft' steel action parts in the past. That has changed significantly; Pietta (and all but Palmetto) now produce good quality, reliable guns. It is still possible to get a lemon from any of them, but the percentages of bad guns have gone way down.

Your characterization about 'forever seeing' posts about folks replacing parts does not consider the thousands of posts that are not about replacing parts, or the tens of thousands of people who are not posting or replacing parts.

 

[rebel727]

Your characterization about 'forever seeing' posts about folks replacing parts does not consider the thousands of posts that are not about replacing parts, or the tens of thousands of people who are not posting or replacing parts.

Or people like SASS shooters that shoot hundreds of rounds every month.

 

[renovato]

The cap & ball guns that Cabelas sell have come up in
quality a long way.

The entire Pietta line has come up a lot in quality. The soft metal isn't just Pietta guns, Uberti has sent out their share too.

 

[renovato]

The Piettas that Cabelas sells have been notorious for soft steel. With the load on the hand that Blizzard mentioned, I think having some spares on hand is a good idea. I'm forever seeing posts on various boards about folks replacing parts in their black powder revolvers, of all brands.

Pietta, and Uberti and Euroarms and Palmetto and Armi San Marco, etc, all were 'notorious' for 'soft' steel action parts in the past. That has changed significantly; Pietta (and all but Palmetto) now produce good quality, reliable guns. It is still possible to get a lemon from any of them, but the percentages of bad guns have gone way down.

Your characterization about 'forever seeing' posts about folks replacing parts does not consider the thousands of posts that are not about replacing parts, or the tens of thousands of people who are not posting or replacing parts.

Entirely true. We tend to see complaints far more often than we see comments from satisfied owners. Still, it does let us know that such things do happen. I'm also forever seeing complaints about Boresnakes breaking and getting stuck in bores. I'm sure there are far more users that haven't had one break, but it made me aware of the problem and I choose to use something else.

I've had the soft steel issues with recently made Ubertis, and Piettas of the early 90's. I'm about to give Euroarms a try and see how they are.

 

[mykeal]

Again, the issue is time related, not manufacturer. The time period to avoid, if it's an issue and if you have the choice, is approximately 1985-1998, with emphasis on the 'approximately'. I've heard of examples of soft parts on guns made in the later 90's and even up to 2002, although the origin of those parts is suspect.

If you buy Euroarms from that time period you'll have about as much chance of getting soft parts as if you buy Pietta from that time period.

Personally, I don't get too worked up about the soft parts issue. If I find a gun in a model that I want that was made in that time frame, I buy it, regardless of the possibility, or even likelihood, of soft parts. Changing action parts is not difficult, they're not expensive and frankly I enjoy working on my guns.

 

[FishDFly]

mykeal,

Yesterday I started revising my list of things to take to major shoots and I noticed one thing right off. Some of the items were: spare trigger, spare lock and a spare gun(s).

Buying spare parts makes sense, espesically if you don't have a spare gun.

Thanks

RDE

 

[renovato]

I know that Piettas of recent vintage have gotten a lot better. I just have trouble trusting them after my bad experiences with them in the past. In the 90's I had bought 6 different Piettas and had trouble with all of them. I still have most of them and they haven't been problematic lately, so either their parts have hardened over the years, like my arteries, or the new parts I installed were of proper hardness.

All in all, I think it's always wise to keep spares on hand, especially for guns that need to be counted on, like hunting or competition guns. Most of mine are plinkers and it doesn't matter if they're out of commission while I wait for parts.

 

[gun killer]

SPAIR PARTS NEVER HERT. HAVE BROKEN HAND SPRIGS IN DIFFERENT COLT CLONS. IF COMPEATING IN A MATCH DOSEN'T HERT TO HAVE SRAIR GUN.