Remington .36 - what model?

[Columbus]

One of my pistols is Remington model (Pietta, CL date) in .36 cal. It has a 6.5" bbl and is the same size as the .44, the only difference being the bore and cylinder diameters. Is this gun a copy of an actual Remington model? Someone thought it was the New Model Belt Revolver but from what I can find that one had a smaller frame.

 

[jdesro]

Pietta's interpretation of the New Model Navy is not a true copy of anything that Remington made. As you noted, all Pietta really did was use the same frame and action parts from their .44, and used a slightly shorted barrel and bored the cylinder to .36 caliber.

The real Remington New Model Navy had a slightly smaller frame than the New Model Army, and from what I understand the Belt model had an even slightly smaller frame than the Navy.

 

[hawkeye2]

It's a copy of the Remington Navy revolver according to the manufactures who have sold them over the years. The Navy had a slightly smaller frame (medium) though this has been ignored to save costs by using the same frame and components for the .36 and the .44. The Navy had a 7 3/8" barrel and as far as I know the repros did too but then you never know what came into the country over the years. The New Model Belt did have a 6.5" barrel and all I could find listed for frame size is "large". To the best of my knowledge no manufacturer or importer ever listed a New Model Belt so I can't explain the shorter barrel on yours. Here is a link to one and notice it has no cylinder safety notches. The Belt was manufactured from '63 to '75 as a percussion .36 and a cartridge .38 starting in '73.

https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/53096-6-402/
Woah! Ignore some of what I have written above. I just happened to look at Dixie's offerings and Lo and Behold what did I find there? The Pietta New Model Belt Revolver.

RH0214 Dixie Pietta Remington 1858 Belt Pistol

 

[jdesro]

Yeah, Dixie calls it a "Belt" model, but the thing is a monster compared to the sleek and svelte revolver shown at the auction site you posted.

 

[nkbj]

One of my pistols is Remington model (Pietta, CL date) in .36 cal. It has a 6.5" bbl and is the same size as the .44, the only difference being the bore and cylinder diameters. Is this gun a copy of an actual Remington model? Someone thought it was the New Model Belt Revolver but from what I can find that one had a smaller frame.

Just about the best excuse for a .41 or .42 I ever did see.
Having one rebored to use nominally .43 diameter bullet molds could be the cat's meow.

 

[Grenadier1758]

I think Uberti used the same sized frame for their 44 and 36 caliber Remington revolvers. My two Uberti Remington 36 caliber revolvers have the same frame size as my EuroArms 44 caliber Remington revolver.

 

[Columbus]

Yeah, Dixie calls it a "Belt" model, but the thing is a monster compared to the sleek and svelte revolver shown at the auction site you posted.

It's no lightweight, I just put it on a scale and it was 2lbs, 14oz. empty.

 

[No second place]

One of my pistols is Remington model (Pietta, CL date) in .36 cal. It has a 6.5" bbl and is the same size as the .44, the only difference being the bore and cylinder diameters. Is this gun a copy of an actual Remington model? Someone thought it was the New Model Belt Revolver but from what I can find that one had a smaller frame.

I have that same model by Uberti. The "Gun fighter special model" .It`s an exact reproduction of that famous ol gun fighter Bronco Billy he had custom converted and cut down from a .44 for faster action...

 

[Rabbit2047]

The Italian clone of the New Model Belt Pistol is also the wrong size.

 

[Rabbit2047]

Here is an original (unmolested aside from the grips. ) New Model Belt Pistol I had the privilege of owning. It's one of the best shooting antiques I ever owned.

 

[Packrat]

I had one of the Remington Navy 1863 models, (Original) The unique thing about them was the cut out in the cylinder rod, this allowed the revolver to have the cylinder removed without lowering the loading lever. Down side, in mine at least, when it got older the slide sometimes would come forward when drawing from the holster and the cylinder would fall out.
Also I was told Remington never patented that modification FWIW

 

[justjake]