I have came across Renegade Hunter locally in a 54.. I would rate it a 9out of 10 just because it’s used. There is also a TC Carbine in a 50 cal that is in same condition. Any pros or cons on the two, this will be my first sidelock.
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Renegade Hunter opinions?
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First let me tell you that I am as completely unbiased as any of the politicians who believe they run the country. Like them I can be bought and can and will change my tune at the drop of a supeona or polling numbers.
So clearly having no dog in this hunt. The .54 Renegade wins. I've never even seen a TC Carbine so it loses.
The .54 Renegade on the other hand I've played with it since it showed up nder the Christmas tree in 1981. Just a box with a bunch of metal and wood pieces. Makes my heart go pitter pat just recalling that time!
And the instructions were in English!
So turn your nose up on the Carbine and hold the Renegade to your breast. You'll feel your motherhood wrapping around your new bundle of joy!
So clearly having no dog in this hunt. The .54 Renegade wins. I've never even seen a TC Carbine so it loses.
The .54 Renegade on the other hand I've played with it since it showed up nder the Christmas tree in 1981. Just a box with a bunch of metal and wood pieces. Makes my heart go pitter pat just recalling that time!
And the instructions were in English!
So turn your nose up on the Carbine and hold the Renegade to your breast. You'll feel your motherhood wrapping around your new bundle of joy!
The carbine has a fast twist barrel, they made them in 1:20 and 1:32,, those are designed to shoot conical and/or the saboted unmentionables,, and in my opinion do so poorly. I'd pass.
The Renegade Hunter has just the single trigger vs the double so it has a bit heavy trigger pull, but the 1:48 barrel in 54 is a great shooter when the proper combination of patched round ball/charge is found and can shoot a well fitted conical of the right size as well.
A double trigger can be installed but it involves a different trigger guard, some inletting and leaves part of the existing inlet with an area that needs filled with a wood plug (easy enough for an intermediate hobbyist that's had some experience).
I'd go for the Renegade. A great and reliable starter gun.
Good luck
p.s. I love the 54,,
The Renegade Hunter has just the single trigger vs the double so it has a bit heavy trigger pull, but the 1:48 barrel in 54 is a great shooter when the proper combination of patched round ball/charge is found and can shoot a well fitted conical of the right size as well.
A double trigger can be installed but it involves a different trigger guard, some inletting and leaves part of the existing inlet with an area that needs filled with a wood plug (easy enough for an intermediate hobbyist that's had some experience).
I'd go for the Renegade. A great and reliable starter gun.
Good luck
p.s. I love the 54,,
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I would go with the Renegade Hunter every time. I own both, but only take the .54 Renegade to the woods with me hunting.
I used to think I needed or had to have the double set trigger and avoided the Hunter models. However, the more I hunt, the more I preferred the single trigger, simple with more room in the trigger guard for gloved fingers.
I used to think I needed or had to have the double set trigger and avoided the Hunter models. However, the more I hunt, the more I preferred the single trigger, simple with more room in the trigger guard for gloved fingers.
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I've owned my Renegade Hunter 50cal since I got it spankin new in 1996. It's been a great rifle for me and I'll never part with it.
Double set trigger, well, Im currently sitting in the woods with my first as we speak. It's an older TC Hawken. I can say that the first few shots at paper were eye opening. Once set, that trigger trips when you just begin to THINK about applying pressure to it. Made the best groups I've ever done with a muzzleloader. But, when on a live hunt in the woods I feel hesitant to set the trigger before firing. Last night I spotted a deer and while waiting for a good opportunity for a shot, I didn't set the trigger and planned to just pull hard on it when/if the time came. As easy as it trips when set, I could see a premature/accidental discharge in a hunting situation. Now this could very well be me and my inexperience with a double set trigger compared to most here. But let me tell you, I feel that this is what inspired the phrase "hair trigger".
All of that to say this, get the 'Gade, you won't regret it. Some don't like the single trigger for being a bit on the heavy side, but for hunting I think it's perfectly adequate. I would actually like to see if there is a way to lighten up the trigger on a double set trigger to make it a bit lighter if firing without setting it.
Double set trigger, well, Im currently sitting in the woods with my first as we speak. It's an older TC Hawken. I can say that the first few shots at paper were eye opening. Once set, that trigger trips when you just begin to THINK about applying pressure to it. Made the best groups I've ever done with a muzzleloader. But, when on a live hunt in the woods I feel hesitant to set the trigger before firing. Last night I spotted a deer and while waiting for a good opportunity for a shot, I didn't set the trigger and planned to just pull hard on it when/if the time came. As easy as it trips when set, I could see a premature/accidental discharge in a hunting situation. Now this could very well be me and my inexperience with a double set trigger compared to most here. But let me tell you, I feel that this is what inspired the phrase "hair trigger".
All of that to say this, get the 'Gade, you won't regret it. Some don't like the single trigger for being a bit on the heavy side, but for hunting I think it's perfectly adequate. I would actually like to see if there is a way to lighten up the trigger on a double set trigger to make it a bit lighter if firing without setting it.
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Thank you for the tip Sir
I've had one for years but I only really spent a lot of time playing with it this year. I'm happy with it. I haven't worked on the trigger. Its definitely not as light as my guns with set triggers but its not bad at all.
I've mentioned it here before but its hard for me to go back and forth between single and double trigger guns. With a double trigger gun I raise the gun, keeping my eyes on the target and put my finger in the trigger guard behind the triggers. I move my finger forward, finding the set trigger and pull it, then move it to the front trigger.
That's drilled into me after doing it for so long. Several times I've nearly pulled the single Hunter trigger like a set trigger. I have to remind myself that there's only one trigger.
I've mentioned it here before but its hard for me to go back and forth between single and double trigger guns. With a double trigger gun I raise the gun, keeping my eyes on the target and put my finger in the trigger guard behind the triggers. I move my finger forward, finding the set trigger and pull it, then move it to the front trigger.
That's drilled into me after doing it for so long. Several times I've nearly pulled the single Hunter trigger like a set trigger. I have to remind myself that there's only one trigger.
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Another thing I've noticed is the geometry of TC single trigger guns and of the trigger itself is not conducive to good pull angles. If I slide my hand rearward and reach with the tip of my trigger finger lower down on the trigger itself, it feels slightly better.
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You could just back out the little screw between the two triggers and this will get rid of the very light hair trigger on your gun. I have done that because I don't want a trigger that is so light that just pushing on the side of the trigger sets it off. I don't like super light triggers on my center fire guns either.
I had one gun with a very light trigger. I was sitting in a deer stand in a cold drizzle and didn't have any gloves on. A doe walked out and I raised my gun and flipped the safety off. I was lining the gun up and triggered off a shot before I was on target. I couldn't feel my fingers. The deer just headed back in the woods and I never got another chance. When I got home that gun got a heavier spring installed on the trigger.
And I would also go for the Renegade hunter. Excellent gun without all the brass bling of the Hawken. I had a 54 Renegade long ago. I wish I still had it. Built hell for stout. If cared for it will last you the rest of your life and kill about anything you want to hunt with it.
