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Anyone got info on period correct styling for free standing rifle holders? The one I saw was a 1/2" sq stake approx 34" tall above ground with a "S" shape welded on the top. There was approx 12-15" pounded into the ground. The butt end of the gun sat on the ground and the barrel rested on the inside of the "S" curve. Any ideas or suggestions would be appriecated.
 
Flashpanner, Not to sound sarcastic, but the only PC rifle holders I am aware of are called a tree. Never saw reference to anything to hold a rifle or smoothbore other than stacking three military arms together while in camp. I personally have my camp table notched to lean my rifle and smoothbore against. JMHO
 
I know tree stands where/are prefered. I participate in living history days and trees or strong bushes are not always near by. Just was wondering if there was some kind of evidence that there was something like this was used.
 
Gotta agree with DEADDAWG, I've never seen a gun stand, but I do make a few like you described. I made a few "U" shaped hooks that screw to my camp kitchen box that I lean my guns in...
 
The only thing I have heard of would be the military Bell of Arms.

It was a wood post with a round disk near the top that had notches to lean the soldiers muskets into. It then had a canvas cover to wrap around it. When in formal camp, the soldiers would stack their muskets in against that post, wrap the specially made canvas cover around it, lace/button it up, and stake it out tight. This kept their muskets protected from the weather and farily easily accessible.

A search of the Rev War sites for a Bell-of-Arms should lead you to some pictures/descriptions.

There probably were some fancy gentlemen's shooting accessories that could function like that, but I have not done any research on them.

It is one of those modern reenactment problems in search of a solution. Which is why various people have come up with those forged stands to stick in the ground, with a C shaped "holder" on top - often then wrapped in leather to protect the gun barrel. I have used them, and even made one for a friend many years ago. The only other alternative is to lay your gun on the ground - not the best choice.

But I have only seen/heard of that Military Bell-of-Arms as a documented solution to the problem. Of course, it does not need to be used with the canvas cover. But it would require a little bigger/deeper hole in the ground. And notches for 6 to 8 muskets - the typical "mess group" was 6 to 8 soldiers.

Just my humble thoughts to share, and best used in conjunction with your own research.

Mikey - that grumpy ol' German blacksmith out in the Hinterlands
 
That "Admiral Drake" gun rack is nice. But the "turn of the century" they are talking about is from the late 1800's on into the 1900's - not 1700's to 1800's. Those cowboy/old west shooters would love it.

Still a nice portable gun rack.

Mikey - that grumpy ol' German blacksmith out in the Hinterlands
 
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