ROA

[TFoley]

WHY oh WHY do folks carry on trying to make the ROA into something that it is not?

This appeared on a sister forum last night...

'you can duplicate hot 45 Long Colt loads with the ROA. More than good enough for piggie. For some real fun... Take a 350gr 458 conical (45-70 bullet), bevel the base as I told you about and load it in front of as much FFFg as you can get in the chamber. Awesome!'

...and some time later, from the same poster...

'Took mine to the range for a 'quicky' just minutes ago. Load was 37.5gr Swiss no. 1 (FFFFg), card wad, ball and a little lube on the top. Wow; now we're cooking with gas!'

Words fail me at this point.

tac

 

[MSW]

clearly, this is not a fellow you want to be near when things go wrong. He's a hazard to himself and others, he is in the running for a Darwin Award, and he'll just end up giving shooting sports a bad name.

Ruger makes a fine product, but you're right, this is asking a bit much of the tool!

I suspect that he runs a very serious risk of a chainfire, with the recoil rattling the caps on adjacent nipples loose, or, in the 'even worse news' category, a burst cylinder.

if he wants a .454 Cashull, he should go out and buy one.

just one guy's opinion- free and no doubt worth the price!

 

[BillinOregon]

MSW, very well put!

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Typical American reaction. See how much you can soup up anything and how far beyond reasonable the limits can be pushed.

There is a group of racing enthusiasts near here that try to see what they can get out of a standard 5 hp B&S engine block. Between boring, new pistons, fuel injection, model air plane fuel and who knows what else, they brag about getting up to 90 MPH with such contraptions before the pistons melt, heads explode, etc. Then they start over building another to see if they can go faster. They have had burns, sprayed with hot oil, burning motor fuel, etc. But it is all FUN.

Frankly if somebody stuck a 350 grain 45-70 bullet in a ROA chamber there wouldn't be much room for powder.

 

[TFoley]

Typical American reaction.

Frankly if somebody stuck a 350 grain 45-70 bullet in a ROA chamber there wouldn't be much room for powder.

Ah, should have pointed out, but did not do so in deference to the poster, that he is not in the USA or any part of Yoorup.

Your second point has a lot going for it - perhaps it is that lack of available load space that is what saves the shooter concerned from becoming an example to us all of 'How not to load a muzzle-loading revolver'.

Although, TBH, I'm not sure that you couldn't get a fairly exciting thing going by ramming the bullet down on as much Triple 7 as you could get in there.

Anyhow, I'm grateful that he is a loooong way away from me.

tac, not in Oregon, but wishes he was

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I do sometimes shoot a 200 grain .456 bullet out of my ROA. It is a two grease groove cylinder of lead that barely takes more room than the round ball. It is an antique Ideal mould. But with a round ball, "felt" recoil is higher.

 

[TFoley]

I do sometimes shoot a 200 grain .456 bullet out of my ROA. It is a two grease groove cylinder of lead that barely takes more room than the round ball. It is an antique Ideal mould. But with a round ball, "felt" recoil is higher.

Sir - there is a world of difference between a 200gr bullet and a 350gr bullet out of a revolver. The Ruger/Lee .457 conical weighs more than 200gr and is deemed perfectly safe to shoot with however much powder you can get behind it.

I was simply expressing my concern about shooting a real rifle bullet in one case, and what seemed to me to be an excessive load in the other.

However, the poster has since told me that he is a professional forensic firearms examiner, so any concerns I may have had have has now totally evaporated into the realms of 'meh'.

tac

 

[aeatwood]

Actually, according to the Ruger manual, you can load any granulation BP you want. Mine was made before 777 was introduced. I would still not want to pack it in to the cylinder and seat a ball.