Are the Rogers & Spencer revolvers made by Pietta any good? Are they accurate shooters like the 1858 Remmies? What would be a fair price for a used one? Thanks for any info.
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Don't know 'bout the Rogers and Spencer but my '58 Rem by Pietta does real good if thats any help.
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I had one for a few years...didnt shoot it much cause the way it fit the hand....felt funny...
sure didnt feel like a Colt or Remmie. I eventually traded it off. I never seen any place that offered replacement parts either...
sure didnt feel like a Colt or Remmie. I eventually traded it off. I never seen any place that offered replacement parts either...
Dixie gunworks sell parts.[url] http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_434_452[/url]scalper said:
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I wasn't aware that Pietta made a Rogers & Spencer. Based purely on "guilt by association" I'd have to say that the quality of such a gun would be mostly a matter of when it was built; the more recent Pietta offerings have been getting good reviews, while there was a period when quality was a problem with them. The Pietta web site does not show the Rogers & Spencer as a current model, so I'm guessing that a used one might be from the period when quality wasn't their best feature. Strictly a guess on my part, but for me that would be enough to be a deal breaker.
Can you examine the gun in person? I'd certainly require that before agreeing to purchase. If not, then I'd insist on a 5 business day grace period (starting from when you received it) during which you could return the gun for a full refund, no questions asked.
Cost of a used one - new Euroarms Rogers & Spencer guns go for around $300-$315, so I'd put the value of a 95% used gun at $230 not including shipping.
Can you examine the gun in person? I'd certainly require that before agreeing to purchase. If not, then I'd insist on a 5 business day grace period (starting from when you received it) during which you could return the gun for a full refund, no questions asked.
Cost of a used one - new Euroarms Rogers & Spencer guns go for around $300-$315, so I'd put the value of a 95% used gun at $230 not including shipping.
Thanks guys. It is one i found on the internet so i couldn't examine it first. May pass on it as i am not that familiar with them. I know about the Remmies and Colts.
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Australian BP shooters found them much better than percussion Colt types, according to Leo Laden.
I own two of the Euroarms Rogers & Spencer. It's quite a large gun, although appropriate for the caliber I think. The quality is very good. They shoot very nicely and I'm satisfied with them on all counts.
They are different than the Colts; the grip is somewhat more comfortable than my large frame Colts and the Remington, but that's a very personal comment and says nothing about the gun being "better". A Rogers & Spencer is not a Colt nor a Remington, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you like.
I'm not familiar with Leo Laden's statement, nor do I know what basis the Australian BP shooters used for their evaluation. Was it a comparison of Pietta's Rogers & Spencer vs Pietta's Colts? Or did they compare Euroarms Rogers & Spencer vs Palmetto's Colts?
My personal standard would be whether I could shoot better with a Rogers & Spencer or a particular Colt design, both built to the same standard of quality. I have found that my Euroarms Rogers & Spencers shoot to POA better and more consistently than my Uberti .44 cal Colts, as they tend to be high at 25 yards. At 50 yards the difference is not so noticeable, and I can easily compensate for the Colt's tendency. The Rogers & Spencer's sights are better, although any bp revolver's sights (excepting perhaps the adjustable Ruger Old Army or target model Remingtons) leave much to be desired.
I'd have to say that the Euroarms Rogers & Spencer is slightly better, but certainly not much better, than a similar Colt design by Uberti. My personal choice for enjoyable shooting, however, is a Colt 2nd Dragoon, so I guess being a little better isn't always enough.
They are different than the Colts; the grip is somewhat more comfortable than my large frame Colts and the Remington, but that's a very personal comment and says nothing about the gun being "better". A Rogers & Spencer is not a Colt nor a Remington, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you like.
I'm not familiar with Leo Laden's statement, nor do I know what basis the Australian BP shooters used for their evaluation. Was it a comparison of Pietta's Rogers & Spencer vs Pietta's Colts? Or did they compare Euroarms Rogers & Spencer vs Palmetto's Colts?
My personal standard would be whether I could shoot better with a Rogers & Spencer or a particular Colt design, both built to the same standard of quality. I have found that my Euroarms Rogers & Spencers shoot to POA better and more consistently than my Uberti .44 cal Colts, as they tend to be high at 25 yards. At 50 yards the difference is not so noticeable, and I can easily compensate for the Colt's tendency. The Rogers & Spencer's sights are better, although any bp revolver's sights (excepting perhaps the adjustable Ruger Old Army or target model Remingtons) leave much to be desired.
I'd have to say that the Euroarms Rogers & Spencer is slightly better, but certainly not much better, than a similar Colt design by Uberti. My personal choice for enjoyable shooting, however, is a Colt 2nd Dragoon, so I guess being a little better isn't always enough.
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I've had two of the Euroarms' Rogers & Spencer revolvers. They were both good quality & very accurate but, for me, too large in the grip to be comfortable for my smaller than average hand. I eventually switched to a .36 Remington & am very happy with it. If you can handle the size/weight of the R&S comfortably I'd say go for it, I don't think you'd be disapointed with the accuracy or functioning
Heartily agree with mykeal's post regarding quality of older Pietta's and the need for an inspection period.
Have owned various Roger's & Spencers over the years... one thing I especially do not like is the loading lever latch retainer/release... it is just a piece of small round pin stock (like a nail shaft) so it tends to be in the way while loading and digs into the skin.
Also, the grip shape is rather unique. Does not feel right in my large hand and cannot cock action without shifting grip substantially (My favorite grip frame is the Colt 1851 Navy/Colt SAA). Of course everyone has their own grip preference, but the R & S grip is unique.
On the positive side... all the R & S I owned had neat markings on the top strap:
Rogers & Spencer Utica New York
Good luck however you decide. :v
Have owned various Roger's & Spencers over the years... one thing I especially do not like is the loading lever latch retainer/release... it is just a piece of small round pin stock (like a nail shaft) so it tends to be in the way while loading and digs into the skin.
Also, the grip shape is rather unique. Does not feel right in my large hand and cannot cock action without shifting grip substantially (My favorite grip frame is the Colt 1851 Navy/Colt SAA). Of course everyone has their own grip preference, but the R & S grip is unique.
On the positive side... all the R & S I owned had neat markings on the top strap:
Rogers & Spencer Utica New York
Good luck however you decide. :v
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I had the chance to shoot one last weekend. The gun had been substantially reworked, and it was a great shooter. I'm not much of a pistolero but I had no difficulty placing all rounds in the black at 25 yards with a traditional one hand hold. I found the gun grip exceptional, but I have very large hands, and the Remington clones are way too small for me. (My middle knuckle won't fit between the inside radius of a Remington grip and the triggerguard) I found the R&S grip very comfortable by contrast, and the one piece frame had the advantages normally associated with a Remington.
The owner did tell me that he spent a few hundred dollars "accurizing" the gun, thus I don't know how it would have performed out of the box. He did say it came with a very heavy trigger pull.
If you have large hands, an R&S might be a good choice.
The owner did tell me that he spent a few hundred dollars "accurizing" the gun, thus I don't know how it would have performed out of the box. He did say it came with a very heavy trigger pull.
If you have large hands, an R&S might be a good choice.
We have one (Euroarms) made in 2007 that came with a heavy trigger. Other than that, it is very well made and accurate. the sights are close to actual point of impact at 25 yards.
the chambers are closer to pietta(.448" vs .450") than Uberti making 451" balls very suitable
the chambers are closer to pietta(.448" vs .450") than Uberti making 451" balls very suitable
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I don't know. I was very impressed by the pistol though. Remington's have never fit me, and any Colt I've shot, impacted feet above the point of aim. This gun handled very well, and shot even better. If I had more time, I would have liked to fire another cylinder with a 2 hand hold. If I was in the market for a cap and ball gun, I would seriously consider an R&S.
