Ruger Old Army

[M. De Land]

From what I understand about present guides in high-danger game country, they like to have both bear spray and a side arm.....sometimes a shotgun....depends on the guide. The bears can be on you at over 30mph, there's only a moment to react. They also say most 'incidents' happen when the people they're guiding do something stupid. There's also the mentality that if a bear or dangerous animal attacks, the guides need to work it out. Seems to me it should always be humans helping humans to survive.

And there's a distinct difference between a black/brown bear attacking versus a Grizzly. Grizzlies are twice the bear and twice the bad temperament if they wanna be. But any sow with a cub(s) is gonna be a scenario you want to avoid at all costs.

Kevin

Some years in AK, more folks are mauled by black bear than Brown/grizzly (which are the same species by the way) only diet and location distinguish them. Also most brown bear encounters involve sows and cubs but some times a grumpy old boar will close if starving. Another fact that most folks do not know is that moose are as dangerous as bears in many instances. They charge and shoot their front split hooves out at you like spear points then once your down do the Rumba on top of you using their full weight to stomp a mud hole in you. I've watched a video of a man being stomped to death by a moose cow hear in Anchorage some years ago on the university campus about a mile from where I sit !
I personally had to kill ( 4 inch Smith ,44 Mag Kieth load) a large boar black bear ( about 400 lbs) that charged and nearly closed on a hunting buddy. Blacks are usually timid but when one doesn't run and starts stalking you, they mean to eat you !

 

[M. De Land]

Nope, you're just as confused as he is . . . They're both an "O" !! See? I keep telling you it's not an "open frame" explain what you mean ? The open top frame INCLUDES the arbor, so what is open about it?

Mike

No top strap for better two side leverage and mass support !

 

[M. De Land]

From what I understand about present guides in high-danger game country, they like to have both bear spray and a side arm.....sometimes a shotgun....depends on the guide. The bears can be on you at over 30mph, there's only a moment to react. They also say most 'incidents' happen when the people they're guiding do something stupid. There's also the mentality that if a bear or dangerous animal attacks, the guides need to work it out. Seems to me it should always be humans helping humans to survive.

And there's a distinct difference between a black/brown bear attacking versus a Grizzly. Grizzlies are twice the bear and twice the bad temperament if they wanna be. But any sow with a cub(s) is gonna be a scenario you want to avoid at all costs.

Kevin

The trouble with bear spray is most folks employ it long before the bear is within range and often forget to factor in wind direction in the heat of the moment. It beats a sharp stick in most cases but I'll take my heavy belt gun with hard cast bullets when push comes to shove. I've sent a hard cast Kieth bullet through a bears spine and it went through him like hot cheese side to side just as ole Elmer said it would. Actually the first slug went through him front to back but missed the spine and the second went through side to side taking out the spine. He dropped like window sash weight with his wiring cut !
Actually I think the ole Walker would be a formal bear repellent with a full charge behind ball or bullet.