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Brett K

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Ok. I am really excited about getting to shoot my muzzleloader and get hunting with it. First order of business. Safety! I have seen a few things like leather frizzen covers and some other recommendations for safe hunting and storage of guns used for hunting. Do I pull the round ball and empty powder before leaving the woods each time, at the end of the season, etc.

I have been hunting for years with a rifle, but I want to learn the new things I will need to safely hunt with my new flintlock.
Tips are appreciated.
 
Brett K said:
Ok. I am really excited about getting to shoot my muzzleloader and get hunting with it. First order of business. Safety! I have seen a few things like leather frizzen covers and some other recommendations for safe hunting and storage of guns used for hunting. Do I pull the round ball and empty powder before leaving the woods each time, at the end of the season, etc.

I have been hunting for years with a rifle, but I want to learn the new things I will need to safely hunt with my new flintlock.
Tips are appreciated.

You'll get lots of answers and I hope so! Apply each as needed... I'll start:
No, you don't have to pull the round ball each time. As long as it's dry and stored well, the load is still good, besides it puts you on the "business end" of the barrel. Just dump the pan powder and plug the vent, store where the barrel won't get too warm (depending on where you hunt).

Next...
 
I also hang a tag on it with "Loaded" written in red. To remind me and in the possible event of my demise while it is still loaded. Don't like to leave a problem after I am gone. We do not live forever.
 
Take advantage of this Forum, and read everything you can. Take your time when shooting; haste makes accidents. You don't want to run a broken ramrod through your hand or arm. Pay attention/don't get distracted while loading.

Click on the "General Muzzleloading" part of the Forum, and read the post on "Dieseling" (11/27/14). It will change your perspective a bit.

There are lots of myths about muzzleloading, that got handed down through the years. Many of them end here.

You will quickly learn that there are a lot of people on this Forum who have considerable knowledge, and are willing to share it with you.

You have the right attitude. Enjoy yourself, and good, safe, shooting. :thumbsup:
 
Do I pull the round ball and empty powder before leaving the woods each time, at the end of the season, etc
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While it is not necessary to unload your gun from one day to the next(it is still advisable), I would not leave the gun loaded from one season to the next. Remember the gun is still loaded even if it is not primed. there is also the issue of proper cleaning and preventative maintenance (hard to do if loaded)

How people treat their guns is a personal preference. I treat mine like a thousand dollar bill that I want to last a lifetime.
 
A flintlock can fire with no prime in the pan!!!

Never, ever check your spark with the barrel charged...It's better to either knap the flint, change to a new flint or even take the lock off, replace the flint, check the spark and replace the flint then to try with the lock on the gun...
 
nchawkeye said:
A flintlock can fire with no prime in the pan!!!

Never, ever check your spark with the barrel charged...It's better to either knap the flint, change to a new flint or even take the lock off, replace the flint, check the spark and replace the flint then to try with the lock on the gun...


Wise words. :thumbsup:
The only firearm mishap I have ever had was with a flint rifle I was showing to someone.
I had loaded for the hunt season. Then things happend in my life and I didn't make the hunt. Death in the family, I had a serious, near fatal, farm accident and other events. After almost three years I took out the flinter and was showing to someone, inside, and sparked the lock. The rifle fired and put a ball into his wall. Very scary and sobering experience. I had ignored every safety rule in existance. :redface:
 
Good tips so far and the one about do not be distracted in the loading process cannot be overemphasized. Once you start the process, follow through without talking to anyone, etc. It's amazing how easy it is to forget the last step you did when someone comes up at the range and starts asking questions and 10 minutes later you get back to finish the load.

I think one big safety item is to never directly load from a powder storage container, be it the can the powder comes in, a flask, or horn. Always pour from the container to the measure then down the bore. In case there is a hot ember left from the last shot, it can ignite the new powder going down the barrel and travel up to whatever container you are using to load with. You do not want that to be a larger quantity of powder as carried in a horn or flask.

In respect to the story Rifleman related...never cock the hammer at the range until you are ready to shoot...pointed down range safely...even if there is no cap on the nipple nor powder in the pan.

I think having your ramrod/rangerod properly marked to indicate the right depth of the load is a safety feature. If I leave a load in hunting, I use this as a check the next day to be sure the load did not shift, making the ball/conical an obstruction in the barrel. In practice, it ensures you seat your ball/conical to the proper depth. If you somehow do get distracted and forget what you last did, a quick check of that mark will tell you a lot (empty, powder only, completely loaded.) Will definitely stop you from putting a second load down...or at least from trying to shoot it. I use a separate brass range rod and on my first load of the day at the range I mark the depth with a black marker. When done shooting or if I am working up a load and changing charges I can wipe it off and remark on the next load.

Great question and even though many of us are long-time shooters, we need a little reminding from time to time as well.
 
My club did a test of how often a flintlock will fire with no powder in the pan. 10 of us loaded up with blanks. We all pulled our triggers on command, sort of a silent volley. In 10 "volleys" we got 10 guns to go off. So we figure you have a 1 in 10 chance of a flintlock going off with no powder in the pan if you spark it.
 
While it is not necessary to unload your gun from one day to the next(it is still advisable), I would not leave the gun loaded from one season to the next.

I agree, and I unload at the end of the hunting day. Just my personal preference.

At the range, place the powder container behind the shooter when firing, not on the bench next to the shooter. Same when hunting, the flask or horn should be resting behind the shooter's elbow, and the stopper replaced.

Ben Franklin was right...Haste makes Waste, and this is amplified in the world of black powder shooting. Take your time loading (as mentioned avoiding distractions). Take your time identifying the game and placing your shot.

and last but not least....

WELCOME! YOU'RE AMONG FRIENDS. :thumbsup:

LD
 
even though many of us are long-time shooters, we need a little reminding from time to time as well.

Amen, Bro. I was very fortunate to not have hurt anyone. In my case, had the muzzle been only a little bit to the right the ball would have gone through a big window and, as the gun fired, a woman with a baby carriage was walking right past the window. The spectre of that event has haunted me since it happened. I am very safety conscious almost to the point of being called a "nut". My failure to observe the most basic of safety rules allows no room for excuses.
 
One of the most frequently violated rules I see with muzzleloaders in the hunting field is leaning on the muzzle. We start getting tired, the gun is heavy and that long barrel makes such a great place to lean on we forget its loaded and pointed at our hand/head.
 
Being you are concerned about safety and not how long you can leave the gun loaded. The safest way is to shoot or pull the ball and powder at the end of the day. I prefer pulling the charge and ball if the gun has not been fired, a lot easier and quicker than shooting it out and then having to go through the cleaning routine. I also feel better going out the next day with a fresh charge. There is no gurantee you will wake up in the morning. flinch
 
In regards to safety and a loaded weapon I will share a story.

I once rescued a man from his burning house (he had many guns). While the house was burning it took some time to get him out, all the time there were thousands of rounds of ammunition going off.
A cartridge bursting is of much lesser consequence then one loaded in the barrel of a gun being discharged from the heat. The risk potential to others is something to think about. It only takes one.
 
Many Klatch said:
My club did a test... So we figure you have a 1 in 10 chance of a flintlock going off with no powder in the pan if you spark it.

I had too many years deer hunting where, if there was a deer standing in front of the sights, I had about a 1 in 10 chance of the gun going off WITH powder in the pan! :haha:
 
+1 :thumbsup:

Mark your field rod for empty, target, and hunting loads. It makes for an easy reference if you forget about or lose the "loaded" tag. Oh yeah, when traveling with it in the car, make sure you point the muzzle away from the passenger compartment, whether partially loaded or not. Just a good habit for any gun.
 

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