Scabbard For The Euro Dagger

[LRB]

Center seam sheath of 6/7 oz vege-tan carving leather sewn with linen thread, and cuir boulli treated for hardness. Throat of 22 ga steel. Frog locket is one piece from 3/8" cold rolled bar, sawn, ground and filed to shape. The locket is pinned and silver brazed to the throat, the top plate is attached with 600° 95/5 cadmium solder and is slotted in a diamond opening to match the blade shape. Very lightly aged. Hope you enjoy a look.

 

[50cal.cliff]

Wick, that is exceptional work! :bow: You make that all look like child's play when I know it is anything but! :thumbsup:

One question would the frog have originally locked into another piece on the belt, or would it just be designed so that the top or the bottom would hook the sash or belt, of the person who would have carried it?

I hope I am saying that so it makes sense!

 

[lonehunter]

What? No tip?

 

[LaBonte]

Wick - Beautiful work on both the knife and sheath!

One question would the frog have originally locked into another piece on the belt, or would it just be designed so that the top or the bottom would hook the sash or belt, of the person who would have carried it?

Cliff - not Wick but the stud is too often mistakenly called a frog. While some folks did and still do just shove the sheath under their belt or sash, most originals came with a belt loop that fits over the sheath and lock in place via the stud - this leather belt loop is actually the frog. Below are just a couple of examples - they varied in style and shape considerably. If you do an internet search for "sheath frog" you'll see a lot more examples for knives, swords, and bayonets.

 

[LRB]

Chuck, am I remembering correctly, or thinking of something else, but isn't what we commonly called a frog, really a throg in correct English? Just curious.

 

[LRB]

I'll give you a tip, but not on this forum.

 

[LaBonte]

Wick - I looked up throg in Dr. Johnson 18th Cent dictionary, Websters 1828 dictionary, and then checked it's etymology via various sources - didn't show anywhere.

Frog on the other hand while not listed in the first two did show up as being applied to the leather belt loop as far back as 1710 or so (dependent on source).

 

[LRB]

Thanks Chuck. I once had an English teacher tell me throg was the descriptive word. I did not question, but went on using frog anyway.

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

Beautiful! Both pieces! :thumbsup:

LaBonte, thanks for the information about the leather loop etc. Very cool stuff to know. If I understood your piece of info correctly, The leather frog is actually like a socket for the sheath to fit into? Regardless, Great info and pictures. :thumbsup:

 

[cynthialee]

Wow!

I am in awe. That is so spiffy!

 

[anvil1231]

Beautiful work Wick. :hatsoff:

 

[LaBonte]

Beautiful! Both pieces! :thumbsup:

LaBonte, thanks for the information about the leather loop etc. Very cool stuff to know. If I understood your piece of info correctly, The leather frog is actually like a socket for the sheath to fit into? Regardless, Great info and pictures. :thumbsup:

Correct........and you're welcome

 

[LaBonte]

here's a pic of the sheath and frog separate

and on the sheath

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

Those pictures explaining the frog are even better. That really clears it up for me. I have a knife with a scabbard from a modern knife company. The sheath has a brass button on the side, and I could never figure out what the heck it was for. Someone at work told me it slipped through or under your belt / sash, and the stud would hold it in place. It didn't seem real secure to me. But I like what you have shown.
Thanks again :thumbsup:

 

[50cal.cliff]

here's a pic of the sheath and frog separate

and on the sheath

You are correct Chuck, I got my terminology crossed up as to which part is called the Frog! The bad part is I knew that too. I guess it was a little of that ole CRS disease again!

Thanks Chuck. I once had an English teacher tell me throg was the descriptive word. I did not question, but went on using frog anyway.

Wick I once had a Literature/English teacher tell me the correct pronunciation of sword was, sWord heavy on the W. :hmm:

For years I went around saying sWord. Till later in life another teacher corrected me to say it was s*ord! The W is silent. :idunno: :shake: Ain't that what I said! She corrected me on that one too! :rotf:

So I guess even English teachers get it wrong some times! :grin:

All kidding aside I do like that dagger and sheath. Your work looks like you stepped back in time and brought it with you! As always, (since I saw one of your knives for the first time) I am impressed!!!!!!! :bow:

 

[LaBonte]

Wick - weird thing is I can't find the word throg in any dictionary available to me - the only references I find anywhere are too a comic????

 

A Throg is a little wet green creature with a lisp! Beautiful work as always Wick, and LaBonte.

Bill

 

[LRB]

Yep. Me too. That teacher musta been educated at one of them yankee liberal colleges that likes to change things just to screw with people and make themselves appear superior.

 

[lonehunter]

Or it could be that Geneva is so far back in the swamps that they just make up words because it takes too long for the readin and writin books to get through.
Takes daylight three days to get there.
Just sayin!!!!!!