Scandinavian Lock Mystery Solved

[rickystl]

Hello ALL. Here is a Thread I posted almost 4 years ago. Some of you may remember. While this beautiful, original lock was in new condition, there was a mystery. There was no trigger bar/sear assembly to move the sear spring inward to release the **** for firing. And there was no fixture or evidence there ever was one. The rear of the inside of the lock plate was just blank. Was the lock never finished ? That didn't seem to make any sense. How was this lock to fire ? In this original Thread, in Post #5, fellow Forum member Pukka offered one possibility showing a photo of an early wheellock showing a one-piece trigger/wedge type assembly. But I've always thought this was a bit crude for this lock and it's time period. So here is the original Thread to give you the back story:

Rick

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/early-17th-century-scandinavian-lock.122907/

 

[rickystl]

To Continue: After all this time, I recently received a PM from fellow Forum member Wulf1928. Wulf had made a copy of a Baltic style lock himself. Somehow, Wulf's lock must have jogged his memory back to the mystery of my lock lacking any sear/trigger bar to operate my Scandinavian lock. And I believe Wulf has solved the mystery of my lock using his Baltic lock as an example. Here are some photos of Wulf's Baltic lock and a sketch detail of what I believe is the "missing" part from my Scandinavian lock. Note the "L" shaped trigger bar piece with the slot. So, IMHO that is the piece I am missing. The slotted end simply fit behind the sear spring forcing the spring inward when the bar was pulled back. No need for a separate mounting for the trigger bar. Would never have thought of this. LOL THANK YOU Wulf !!!!

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Here is a sketch detail Wulf sent me showing my missing part. THANK YOU AGAIN Wulf.

Rick

 

[wulf1928]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......

 

[rickystl]

Now all I need to do is find someone to make this "part" and to fit it to my lock. It'll drive me crazy if I don't. LOL

Rick

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Rick,
You are not crippled in the hands. Go make the piece! It's not a hard thing to do.

Glad Wulf solved the problem. Now I see it, I recall seeing it before! No need to pin it i or anything!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Now all I need to do is find someone to make this "part" and to fit it to my lock. It'll drive me crazy if I

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

 

[TobJohn]

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

Great opportunity to try forging!

 

[rickystl]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......

That's so funny how this just popped into your head. LOL I never put it together. But you did. Thanks.

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Rick,
You are not crippled in the hands. Go make the piece! It's not a hard thing to do.

Glad Wulf solved the problem. Now I see it, I recall seeing it before! No need to pin it i or anything!

Yes, I was thinking: Where is the mounting to pin fasten the trigger bar ? Similar to my Swedish lock here. As you mention, in this case a mounting is not necessary. What I find so funny is that Wulf comes up with the answer near 4 years later. LOL Shows you how valuable a Forum like this can be.

Here's the mounting on my Swedish lock:

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

Hi Flint

Nice of you to offer. DARN. And I just sent you a shipment Friday. I could have included the lock in the box. Oh well.

Rick

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

How about this? Send/email me ‘rough’ measurements and I’ll send you a blank or one you can finish file to fit …

 

[rickystl]

How about this? Send/email me ‘rough’ measurements and I’ll send you a blank or one you can finish file to fit …

Hi Flint

I would send the lock to make it easier to make and fit a finished part. Unfortunately, I have a case of Neuropathy in my legs. But it sometimes causes a slight hand numbness. So my hand skills are not what they use to be. But I am happy to pay for other peoples talent. LOL Since the lock is in new condition, I'm guessing the new part can be polished out to make a pretty close match to the rest of the lock. To fit the new part looks like it just requires the unscrewing of the sear spring.

By the way, I understand you already have more than a handful of projects LOL

Rick

 

[wulf1928]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......What is your address. I have two done for you. With no promises.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

I would gladly put this lock upgrade to be 1st Rick …

 

[dracer]

it is really nice to see how members step up and help each other

 

[rickystl]

it is really nice to see how members step up and help each other

And it's fun. Really adds to the hobby.

 

[XVIIc Wheelock]

I don't think of it only as a hobby.....I thought it is an educations' quest for knowledge hardly available elsewhere..... with tad of curiosity? If I told my wife it was a hobby....with the amount of time I put into it and cost invested in it....she would say I need another hobby...like flying kites!

 

[TobJohn]

I don't think of it only as a hobby.....I thought it is an educations' quest for knowledge hardly available elsewhere..... with tad of curiosity? If I told my wife it was a hobby....with the amount of time I put into it and cost invested in it....she would say I need another hobby...like flying kites!

That’s how I justify my rapidly expanding library to my fiancé, lol! It’s not enough that the guns are expensive, the books are too!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

That’s how I justify my rapidly expanding library to my fiancé, lol! It’s not enough that the guns are expensive, the books are too!

... but the info is priceless!