Scored a Euroarms Rogers & Spencer

[Flash Pan Dan]

Walked into a gun shop and there was box on a back counter that read “Euroarms.” I asked what it was and was told it was a cap & ball pistol they found in the back. It was a NIB Rogers & Spencer revolver. “How much for this one,” I asked, $139 was the answer, because that was on the price tag taped to the box when it was stored. I almost broke my arm going for my wallet.

Now I got to learn more about this revolver. Timing is perfect and locks up tight. But why did they use such narrow slots on the screws? It has all the factory preservative still on it and it has started to cake. I’d be most appreciative to anyone who has had any experience taking one of these apart and can pass on some words of wisdom. It is a odd feeling pistol compared to my NMA Remmys and Colts but it sure holds steady. Can’t wait to shoot it.

Dan

 

[Don]

Wow, thats a nice score! Those puppies go for $350 or better now. If you google it you can find an exploded diagram which will help you get familiar with the gun. I don't have one but I can't imagine they are a whole lot harder to assemble and disassemble then the Remingtons.

Don

 

[hawkeye2]

Fantastic! That's a great price and they are fine shooters out of the box too.

Narrow screw slots are typical of Italian guns. Why take it apart? Take the grips off and clean it in mineral spirits or kerosene (let it soak), dry, lube and replace the grips. I have one I had the late Tom Ball accurize many years ago and it hasn't been apart since.

I recomend that you do NOT use the loading lever. The screw that retains it is a male/female thing that is free to rotate in the frame. The loading lever/cylinder pin is removed by turning this till a notch in it allows the pin to be withdrawn. The cylinder pin has a notch in it that this screw rotates into to retain it. this setup works well to hold things together if the loading lever is latched up. Sooner or later while loading the retaining screw assembly will rotate (there is nothing to stop it from doing so) till it allows the pin to come out. This happens while you are ramming a ball in the chamber and the pin will come out till the notch in it reaches the front edge of the frame. At that point it bends and you are shut down till you can find two rocks to pound it straight with.

20 grains of 3f with Cream of Wheat (not the instant) for a filler is a very accurate load for 25 and 50 yards. I can't remember for sure but I think it was about 14 grains of COW, any way start at about 12 grains and you can work it up till it seats the ball near the chamber mouth.

 

[FishDFly]

It is a odd feeling pistol compared to my NMA Remmys and Colts but it sure holds steady. Can’t wait to shoot it.

What in the hell is a NMA Remmys and Colts?

Wow, thats a nice score! Those puppies go for $350 or better now.

I must really getting old, how does a pistol become a puppy?

What happened to plain English????

 

[Zonie]

Lucky find.
These are fine pistols and can shoot very accurately.

They have improvements over the Colt and Remingtons that keep them from locking up from fouling after shooting a lot of shots.

Do as hawkeye2 suggests and do NOT take the gun apart.

The internals are a bit more complex and difficult to get back into place compared with a Remington or Colt.

 

[Don]

Well, they do bark when you pull the trigger.

Don

 

[Flash Pan Dan]

Thank you for the responses. I did remove the cylinder and was wondering how the retaining mechanism would hold up. Good to know hawkeye2.

As a normal part of buying and shooting Italian C&B pistols, I take them apart clean, deburr and lube them. It’s a way of getting to know the weapon and just making sure all is as it should be inside. Doing so is not a problem with New Model Army Remingtons and Colts.

I will study the schematics and decide what I will do. I did find detail disassembly instructions for the Feinwerkbau Rogers & Spencer. I’m hoping that will work on this model.

Thank you all again.

Dan

 

[RADeO]

Fantastic score Dan! :thumbsup: What other gems might they have in that back room? :grin:

You should find the trigger pull on your R&S to be the best of any of the Italian imports by a long shot, if you'll pardon the pun.

The only complaint I have with them is that the grip frame can be a stinker to get reattached to the mainframe. Wanna know how I know?

 

[rafterob]

What happened to plain English????

You have to go to England to get that. What we speak in America makes the English cringe.

 

[junkman_01]

What you speak in NC would make someone from MA cringe too!

 

[Poor Private]

Welcome to the Roger & Spencer ownership club. I have had mine for a few years now. Stiff hammere pull but a sweet gun.

 

[redwing]

This is a Roger & Spencer Euro Target. This was shot at 25 Yds. from a rest. A .457 RB cast 20-1 35 grs. Wano 3F and a Remington #11 cap. Ruger used this arm to design the ROA. I have been shooting this one for years never had a loading lever problem. Removing the main spring is difficult. These are no longer made.

 

[BGRooster1]

Nice find . So you don't have to try to decide what to do with that firearm . I feel you should just go ahead and send it to me for safe keeping . I'll even pay the postage and insurance express mail . :rotf:

I know , I'm a dreamer .
I have one with fixed sights and one target model .

 

[BGRooster1]

Nice find . So you don't have to try to decide what to do with that firearm . I feel you should just go ahead and send it to me for safe keeping . I'll even pay the postage and insurance express mail . :rotf:

I know , I'm a dreamer .
I have one with fixed sights and one target model .