Screws and Bolts

[Ryan Saunders]

I've run into another little thing that's on the verge of giving me fits. I'm not real sure what the various screws in this little bag are intended for. I have five smaller screws and two larger ones, 8 pins, two lock bolts and one tang bolt. I know that the barrel takes three pins, the trigger guard takes two pins and the entry thimble and two rod pipes take one pin each. Where do the 7 screws go? The label on the bag simply says: "Screw set,for longrifle, 8-32 threads". I know what the pins and bolts are for, but what about those screws?

 

[Supercracker]

From TOW

I just finished my rifle which came with the same kit and I have a pin or two and the little screws left over.

I think they were supposed to be for a patchbox or something

 

[Ryan Saunders]

What did you use the two larger screws for?

 

[saber]

large screws are more then likely for the butt plate what kit is it sometimes a jaeger will use a screw for the back of the trigger guard and some butt plates use screws and a pin if they are small screws maybe inlays or patch box some people use a small screw in the rear of a long trigger plate pins I just use metal coat hangers and cut my pins

 

[matt denison]

What holds your butt plate on? Often two screws (the large wood screws) and a pin through the extension.

Other screws for patch/cap box. One could be for the tail of the sideplate. If not then toss them in the cigar box with all the others you have collected in your life and forget that you have them. :rotf:

 

[Ryan Saunders]

Wait, hold on... I'm gonna bend over here, and one of ya'll just kick me square in the seat of the pants.... The two larger screws must be for the buttplate hadn't they? I've about figured out what I'm going to do. I'll cut the rear pin extension off the triggerguard and screw it on there, pin it in the front. I'll use another small screw in the rear of the trigger plate, the tang bolt will hold the front of it up. And I think I'll use another small screw for the muzzle cap. Thank you all for getting me back to thinkin' straight lol :hatsoff:

 

[mikemeteor]

And I think I'll use another small screw for the muzzle cap.

well.. ya could try that, but ya might want to check out using a rivet.
You'll probably find there's not a whole lotta wood up there for grabbin screw threads for the long term.

 

[Zonie]

Unless the gun is a Southern or Tennessee rifle the trigger guard should be pinned at the front and the rear.

Just because the maker included some extra screws and pins doesn't mean you have to use them all.

Unlike kits produced by the big companies who bean count every thing from pins to screws the makers of most of the advanced 'kits' often provide more screws and pins than are actually needed to make the gun.

As for the number of pins needed to attach the parts. I usually use two pins in the entry pipe rather than the one pin needed for the thimbles.

My reason for using two pins on the entry pipe is it is long and any loosness at all that may be caused by using just one pin will be very obvious when the 'tail' of the pipe raises up off of the forearm. With two pins in this part it will be held tight and it won't wobble.

 

[jerrywh]

The extra screws are just to mess with your mind. When I was a mechanic for ford we used to do that trick on some of the new guys. We used to put extra screws and stuff on their bench when they were overhauling a motor or a caburator. like one of those little balls for a check valve.
It's so funny seeing the look on their face when they are trying to figure out where was supposed to go.

 

[Birddog6]

It is a General Screw Assortment for a longrifle. It may have more or less than you need to build the rifle.

For a Bucks rifle, you could/would generally need:

2 Lockbolts, from Sideplate to Lock.
1 Tangbolt from Tang to front of Triggerplate.
2 Screws for the Buttplate, a large & medium wood screw.
1 or 2 small Toeplate screws
1 Triggerplate small screw (rear)
2 pins for the Triggerguard
3-4 pins for the barrel underlugs, depending on barrel length
2-3-4 pins for the RR & Entrypipes
1 Copper rivet for the Nosecap.

And if you do a metal patchbox, you will needs screws to retain it as well.

Keith Lisle