Is it better to use an oil based product such as Chambers Traditional Oil Finish or Dem-Bart stock oil instead of Permalyn sealer as a sealer if these products (Chambers or Dem-Bart) are to be used as a finish. I read somewhere that if Permalyn Sealer is used the oil finish cannot penetrate the wood and the subsequent coats of oil would just build up and sit on top of the sealer. I also read that Permalyn due to its plastic polymer makeup is not as flexible as an oil during changes in temperature and humidity.
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Terry Zboril
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Greymount,
I have done it both ways. If you go straight Chamber's or Dem-Bart, it works well.
I have lately used Permalyn Sealer as a basecoat and Chambers or Dem-Bart on top, with no discernable difference. They are compatable.
I was under the assumption that Permalyn is linseed oil based, but could be wrong.
Be sure to hand rub any finish down to the wood pores to prevent buildup, unless you want a "varnish" looking finish.
Regards,
Terry
I have done it both ways. If you go straight Chamber's or Dem-Bart, it works well.
I have lately used Permalyn Sealer as a basecoat and Chambers or Dem-Bart on top, with no discernable difference. They are compatable.
I was under the assumption that Permalyn is linseed oil based, but could be wrong.
Be sure to hand rub any finish down to the wood pores to prevent buildup, unless you want a "varnish" looking finish.
Regards,
Terry
Terry,
What do you mean by "be sure to hand rub a any finish down to the wood pores to prevent build up". Do you mean to steel wool the finish down or to use some other technique. I have tested both Chambers and Dem-Bart on blank pieces of maple and I still get that "varnish" finish. I am looking for that soft oil finish or sheen.
Thanks
Greymount
What do you mean by "be sure to hand rub a any finish down to the wood pores to prevent build up". Do you mean to steel wool the finish down or to use some other technique. I have tested both Chambers and Dem-Bart on blank pieces of maple and I still get that "varnish" finish. I am looking for that soft oil finish or sheen.
Thanks
Greymount
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Greymount,
Yes , I use 0000 steel wool between sealer coats of either Dem-Bart or Chambers oils,(The pic is with Chambers oil). I can see no difference. Sealer coats are steel wooled down to the stock wood to fill the pores,but NOT deep enough to cut the stain. (finesse here, especially around any carving), with COMPLETE DRYING between coats, (takes about a week). Then the last finish coats are applied A FEW DROPS AT A TIME, with the fingers and/or heel of the hand, and "hand rubbed" till the finish gets "tacky" or "satiny". Then let it set for a few more days, before final assembly.
Here is an example of this process that has been posted here before,
Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it was how how I did this one and really easy if you are not into the "rush" process.
Regards,
Terry
Yes , I use 0000 steel wool between sealer coats of either Dem-Bart or Chambers oils,(The pic is with Chambers oil). I can see no difference. Sealer coats are steel wooled down to the stock wood to fill the pores,but NOT deep enough to cut the stain. (finesse here, especially around any carving), with COMPLETE DRYING between coats, (takes about a week). Then the last finish coats are applied A FEW DROPS AT A TIME, with the fingers and/or heel of the hand, and "hand rubbed" till the finish gets "tacky" or "satiny". Then let it set for a few more days, before final assembly.
Here is an example of this process that has been posted here before,
Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it was how how I did this one and really easy if you are not into the "rush" process.
Regards,
Terry
Terry
Thanks for the advice. Your gun looks top notch. The soft finish is what I am trying to accomplish. How many sealer coats did you put on it and how long did you wait for it to dry before OOOO steel wooling it. I would assume that you steel wooled it briskly to get the sealer down to the wood. Once the sealer was steel wooled how many coats of finish did you put on it. I have tried 6-7 light coats to fill the grain and maybe thats too many causing the glossy finish. By the way what stain did you use or did you use acid. The color looks great.
Thanks
Greymount
Thanks for the advice. Your gun looks top notch. The soft finish is what I am trying to accomplish. How many sealer coats did you put on it and how long did you wait for it to dry before OOOO steel wooling it. I would assume that you steel wooled it briskly to get the sealer down to the wood. Once the sealer was steel wooled how many coats of finish did you put on it. I have tried 6-7 light coats to fill the grain and maybe thats too many causing the glossy finish. By the way what stain did you use or did you use acid. The color looks great.
Thanks
Greymount
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