Small doe fell to me last evening to a 50 caliber prb ahead of 80 grains of 3fg. Thats one for the boy, one for me. Its over. None too soon as below zero temps are coming. I am so glad that I own private land. It makes a difference. This is my fifth deer with prb and my son got his first with prb. fine eating in store this winter. Life is good. I have sworn off centerfires forever