Shipping Enfield P1853 with Snider conversion

[Frod733]

Hello. My apologies if this is inappropriate. Trying to determine if I can ship this directly to a buyer, or do I have to do the FFL thing, given it is now a cartridge gun (albeit a former civil war era gun). Looking for inputs from experts here. If inappropriate, my apologies.

 

[Frod733]

Sorry, fat fingers. P1853 rifle musket converted.

 

[MAPMFF]

Still qualifies as an antique firearm, ive bought and sold a few Sniders and never used an FFL.

 

[deerstalkert]

depends on the conversion cartridge. if you can buy them at walmart, FFL.
if you have to dig up an old battlefield to get brass to reload, mail it direct.
simplistic answer but covers it.

 

[MAPMFF]

depends on the conversion cartridge. if you can buy them at walmart, FFL.
if you have to dig up an old battlefield to get brass to reload, mail it direct.
simplistic answer but covers it.

Good way to phrase it.

 

[springfield art]

Hello. My apologies if this is inappropriate. Trying to determine if I can ship this directly to a buyer, or do I have to do the FFL thing, given it is now a cartridge gun (albeit a former civil war era gun). Looking for inputs from experts here. If inappropriate, my apologies.

If it's made before 1898, it's an antique. No FFL required.

 

[TobJohn]

unless your state has additional laws, it should be fine to mail directly. There are even some early smokeless guns, like lebels and the first Schmidt Rubin rifles that qualify.

 

[Frod733]

Thanks to all!!

 

[Sam squanch]

Build a nice plywood case to ship it in. If it’s just in a cardboard box, it may get broken. Accidentally or on purpose.

 

[wganz]

depends on the conversion cartridge. if you can buy them at walmart, FFL.
if you have to dig up an old battlefield to get brass to reload, mail it direct.
simplistic answer but covers it.

IIRC, .577 brass can be made from 24 gauge brass.


24 gauge brass
https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/11079

 

[Muley Gil]

If it's made before 1898, it's an antique. No FFL required.

Incorrect.

The cut-off date is December 31, 1898.

 

[Spaxspore]

Had one shipped in from France. Even they consider it a "nonfirearm" youll be fine.

 

[Muley Gil]

When I was in Afghanistan, I shipped 2 Snider-Enfields and 2 Martini-Henrys back to the States.

 

[Muley Gil]

double post

 

[Appowner]

Michigan requires an FFL for anything that can be converted with readily available kit or it is already modified. Check the laws of the state you're shipping it to.

 

[Sam squanch]

Yes, I’m not sure , but I think the ATF came out with some new interpretations on antique and modern. According to their rules, an antique PINFIRE shotgun can’t be sawn off now below 18”. Cover your butt….