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DOUBLEDEUCE 1
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Try lowering your powder charge a bit. Those guns were usually sighted in for about 75 yards if I recall correctly. Try 18 to 25 gr FFFG, and see what that gets you. Others will probably chime in with better information.
What is your powder charge?
What is your powder charge?
DOUBLEDEUCE 1
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I would drop the charge down to maybe 20 gr. Use corn meal for filler on top of the powder, then the ball. Give that a try.
There are a couple of videos available from duelist1954 which show how to adjust the rear sight on a Colt to cure this problem.
Top of the page here:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...0/post/1123755/hl/video/fromsearch/1/#1123755
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Top of the page here:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...0/post/1123755/hl/video/fromsearch/1/#1123755
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Generally, with handguns, reducing the velocity or increasing the bullet weight will raise point of impact at short ranges.
Every gun is a law unto itself, however, so it doesn't hurt a thing to try.
What I KNOW will work is to file a "cap" for your front sight out of a piece of brass, and either pin or epoxy it to the top of your existing sight, then file it back down to get POI and POA together. If you fit it closely so that it sits down snugly on the existing sight, this should be a one-time deal.
The other approach is to dovetail a front sight into the barrel.
I have generally had better luck w/ percussion revolvers with a full charge of 2F BP and a lubed wad under the ball versus 3f, even in reduced charges. If you play with filler, you could very well find a load that shoots as accurately, but fillers are a pain in the neck with a gun that is already slow to load. In addition, 2F seems to be kinder to the open-top designs and was what they were usually loaded with in the "old days".
The important thing with the lubed wads is make sure they seat down on the powder far enough so they do not touch the ball when it is dropped into the chamber mouth. The ball will self-center if nothing is touching it.
Every gun is a law unto itself, however, so it doesn't hurt a thing to try.
What I KNOW will work is to file a "cap" for your front sight out of a piece of brass, and either pin or epoxy it to the top of your existing sight, then file it back down to get POI and POA together. If you fit it closely so that it sits down snugly on the existing sight, this should be a one-time deal.
The other approach is to dovetail a front sight into the barrel.
I have generally had better luck w/ percussion revolvers with a full charge of 2F BP and a lubed wad under the ball versus 3f, even in reduced charges. If you play with filler, you could very well find a load that shoots as accurately, but fillers are a pain in the neck with a gun that is already slow to load. In addition, 2F seems to be kinder to the open-top designs and was what they were usually loaded with in the "old days".
The important thing with the lubed wads is make sure they seat down on the powder far enough so they do not touch the ball when it is dropped into the chamber mouth. The ball will self-center if nothing is touching it.
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Aim lower! 
Only 6" high? My Colt 3rd generation 1860 was printing over a foot high at 25 yards. Knocked the front sight out of the half moon notch, made a new one to fit, but left a lot of brass so I could file it down to POA. First 5 shots, decided I didn't need to file anything. Shoots fine now, but has a really tall front sight.
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I think this POA=POI thing is over rated! A good shooter can adjust to where his gun is hitting and make due. :v
True, but it's kinda nice to have the sights close to where the ball hit's.junkman_01 said:
With pistol and revolver shooting grip, and the hold affect POA-POI issues also,
And some if not many sighting issues are a result of the grip/hold an individual uses,,
,it's really tuff to tell or show someone grip on a forum,
Alot of variables there.
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If you are punching paper, yes, you can use kentucky windage. For hunting, I feel I owe it to the game to do the best I can, and holding off isn't it.
Plus, if you want to make some beer money betting, you can clean up demonstrating to people who think pistols and black powder are short range propositions. Although the RB starts getting kind of puny about 150 yards, and wind will kill you. The front sight needs to be pretty thin to index properly in opentop hammer noses. I prefer the Remingtons for that type of work but you have to cut the sides of the post front sight lower than they generally are.
Plus, if you want to make some beer money betting, you can clean up demonstrating to people who think pistols and black powder are short range propositions. Although the RB starts getting kind of puny about 150 yards, and wind will kill you. The front sight needs to be pretty thin to index properly in opentop hammer noses. I prefer the Remingtons for that type of work but you have to cut the sides of the post front sight lower than they generally are.
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I agree. Yes you can 'make do' but in my experience the best shooters don't go about it that way.
I already have replacement nipples on the way for my 1860 and I am gearing up to do the mods that the Duelist on youtube is recommending. It's part of the fun for me. These guns can be serious shooters and not just toys or wall hangers.
I already have replacement nipples on the way for my 1860 and I am gearing up to do the mods that the Duelist on youtube is recommending. It's part of the fun for me. These guns can be serious shooters and not just toys or wall hangers.
