southern style with swamped barrel

[oldarmy]

I am sure this was covered before, but i couldn't find it using search function..
I have given up on the brown bess for now. and would like to build a southen style with a light "A" weight colerain swamped in the largest cal it comes in.
I am tired of really heavy guns and want a nice off hand shooter.
Is this Period correct? The only southern style I can find all have straight oct barrels.

 

[Swampman]

Have you considered this....
[url] http://www.flintlocks.com/rifles04.htm[/url]

Did you buy some Brown Bess parts?

 

[rich pierce]

Of course you can design a Southern rifle with a swamped barrel and have it be period correct. Just choose the time and place where swamped barrels were used. "Southern style" and "period correct" are pretty wide terms. Southern being from Maryland? or at least Virginia south to Florida and "period correct" covering Jamestown to the present.

If you choose something from 1750-1810, a swamped barrel would be fine. Anything earlier than that would have a swamped barrel too but we don't have a clue what it would look like.

 

[Roy]

Oldarmy, Sent you some pics to your email. Might be what your looking to build or have built.

 

[howdydoit]

Ive been looking at the particular one alot. But I think im going to peice it together my self, to try and cut the cost a little.

 

[DrTimboone]

I built this southern colonial period .54 with a Colerain Swamped American Heritage 44" C profile barrel and it weighs in just under 7.5 lbs. have packed it all day long in the woods with no strain. Killed its first deer at 160 paces,[url] offhand..in[/url] 60 year old hands...
[url] http://www.hcdllp.com/pages/3/index.htm[/url]

It don't have to be heavy

 

[Erzulis boat]

De Oppresso Liber-

Yeah or Neah?

 

[Zonie]

Just remember, with the A weight barrel in .40 cal the swamped area is only .660 (Colerain Isaac Haines) or .700 (Colerain Golden Age).
This only leaves about .120-.140 thickness of the barrel wall. I would suggest either dovetailing or silver soldering the underlugs on.
I had a real problem with the stapled underlugs on a swamped barrel (drilled hole broke thru the wall).

 

[davy]

Oldarmy, Sent you some pics to your email. Might be what your looking to build or have built.

Is it possible for the rest of us to take a gander at this rifle Roy? :thumbsup:

Davy

 

[DrTimboone]

Yeah........

 

[Roy]

Sure...

Carolina stye with a 50 cal 44" colrain barrel weighs 7 lbs.

 

[oldarmy]

Yep,
That's what I HAD IN MIND. :thumbsup:
how does she shoot off hand?
I love the style..
The brown bess is going to wait until I have the skills to build my own lock.
About the thin walls
I would cut very thin dove tails and solder them in to give them strength..
I read the threads about not having to drive in the dove tails too deep.
It isn't like we are trying to kill a vampire.

 

[Roy]

Actually this is one of the best shooters of the bunch. Plain Jane. I can copy the pattern for you if you want. I also have a Bess lined up to build for myself, but now its just finding the time.

 

[Roy]

For the barrel lugs I usually just solder them on.
For truing up lock parts I use a lathe if you need any help let me know, I usually end up assembling 4-5 locks a year + making new parts for originals (better $$ in it than building rifles).

 

[davy]

Thanx for the photos Roy .. nice one mi amigo! :hatsoff:

Davy

 

[oldarmy]

hey Roy,
Thanks
I am just starting build my own. I have a nice little .32 southern I built and i

 

[Roy]

And what? :grin: No problem.

My first rifle I built was a Carolina style 32 cal 44" 7/8 Douglas barrel on a piece of shell maple. A bit fancier than the one above, with a entry pipe and a buttplate. It only weighs 8 1/2 :grin: all at the end! I'll dig it out and get some pics posted if you want.

 

[oldarmy]

hey Roy,
Thanks
I am just starting build my own.
I like the southern style and locks are availble.
Building rifles is a hobby that just gets out of control.
I just love it
Merry Christmas

 

[Roy]

Building rifles is a hobby that just gets out of control.

I have more money tied up in parts right now than I do in my vehicles. :winking:

 

[davy]

And what? :grin: No problem.

My first rifle I built was a Carolina style 32 cal 44" 7/8 Douglas barrel on a piece of shell maple. A bit fancier than the one above, with a entry pipe and a buttplate. It only weighs 8 1/2 :grin: all at the end! I'll dig it out and get some pics posted if you want.

Well git them puppies out here then, and lets take gander! :grin:

Davy