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Pete44ru

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I spotted this elsewhere, and thought it of interest here - a powder horn built from a found Antelope horn & a cut down metallic cartridge case for the spout.

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I made a couple of small horns from Antelope - I treated the exterior (& interior) with beeswax. One was for 4F (made before I owned a Flintlock and found out I could prime from the horn) and the other for salt.

BTW - all horns are made of "hair" (actually keratin, which makes up hair, horn, nails/claws, hooves...).
 
BillinOregon said:
Pete, since antelope horn is made essentially of hair, I wonder what you could treat it with to keep it intact.

Bill, the horn builder was told that a coat of non-gloss clear lacquer will soak in, keep the fibers from lifting, and also waterproof the horn.
 
Vomir le Chien said:
What did you use for a plug?

Rifleman1776 said:
But if you have a concern the horn could be stabilized.
That would make the whole thing about as 'authentic' as yer cartridge spout.

:surrender:

Since it's not my horn, I didn't use anything - including the spout. :doh:

As stated, I only spotted it, and did not make it. :shake:
 
Pete44ru said:
Vomir le Chien said:
What did you use for a plug?

Rifleman1776 said:
But if you have a concern the horn could be stabilized.
That would make the whole thing about as 'authentic' as yer cartridge spout.

:surrender:

Since it's not my horn, I didn't use anything - including the spout. :doh:

As stated, I only spotted it, and did not make it. :shake:


OK, yer forgiven. :grin: :v
 
I think it would be fine without treating it with anything. As Stated, made of the same stuff as other horns. I can't say that I have ever seen an original one but, I would imagine that Native Americans may have used them as such. Especially in places where Bison were not prevalent.

As thick as the horn is where the cartridge is glued in, it could be shaped and used without said cartridge.

As Much as I wish I was, I was not there so that's just a guess. I'm sure many will say Just cause we cant prove it wasn't doesn't mean it was. Or is it Just cause we can't prove it was, doesn't mean it wasn't. Depends on which side you are on.

I think its kinda cool myself. :v
 
jrmflintlock said:
I would imagine that Native Americans may have used them as such. Especially in places where Bison were not prevalent.
Considering the abundance of trade and trade routes throughout the continent (between native tribes and whites & natives), nearly anything that was available elsewhere would be available at some point. Also considering the trade routes pre-dated the arrival of whites and that there was trade between the natives and the French, English, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese and eventually Colonials, I'd suggest that one doesn't need to imagine - cow powderhorns were commonly available...

One needs to remember this was a matter of prestige and "keeping up with the Jones'" - the natives wanted the newest, best, neatest trade items and did whatever they could to obtain them.
 
Agreed with both Rifleman and Black Hand.

From what I have seen, Native Americans of the time also liked having unique stuff. You see a lot of examples of common stuff used for a totally different purpose. As well as embellishing things to make them personal.

I do not think such an item would have been common by any means but...

:v
 
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