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SOLD Springfield .45cal Percussion Numrich rebarreled

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dogfood

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36" barrel with clean and sharp rifling
.45cal barrel made by Numrich with more modern sights
Stock overall in goo condition but there is are a couple minor cracks front of the lock
No rust, finish is blued and patina'ed
Lock is strong and trigger pull is clean
$480 OBO shipped to lower 48- check preferred but other methods are okay
Feel free to message me with any questions
Thanks for looking
Cheers,
-dgfd
 

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36" barrel with clean and sharp rifling
.45cal barrel made by Numrich with more modern sights
Stock overall in goo condition but there is are a couple minor cracks front of the lock
No rust, finish is blued and patina'ed
Lock is strong and trigger pull is clean
$480 OBO shipped to lower 48- check preferred but other methods are okay
Feel free to message me with any questions
Thanks for looking
Cheers,
-dgfd
Ramrod?
 
What model Springfield is this rifle?

Are we assuming it is a bullet gun?

Don’t know if the Numrich barrel was designed for round ball, or bullets…
RMark is spot on.
The stock is from an 1884 with the hammer from an 1863. With a 1:56 twist, I'd say it'd be good for roundball.
 
RMark is spot on.
The stock is from an 1884 with the hammer from an 1863. With a 1:56 twist, I'd say it'd be good for roundball.

If it could fire slugs I’d be very interested. Sort of a poor man’s Whitworth.

Mounted with either a ladder sight or a period scope it would be a fun hunting gun. I have a P-H Whitworth, but it’s a lot of money tied up in a gun I rarely shoot.

Is the rifling deep? Or shallow?
 
The cartouche on the wrist looks like 1884, so this would be a trapdoor rifle stock, which is what the Numrich barrel and hammer kit was made to fit. It allowed you to convert your trapdoor into a muzzleloader.
I think I remember seeing these kits or conversions advertised in the late 1960’s or early 1970’s.
 
If it could fire slugs I’d be very interested. Sort of a poor man’s Whitworth.

Mounted with either a ladder sight or a period scope it would be a fun hunting gun. I have a P-H Whitworth, but it’s a lot of money tied up in a gun I rarely shoot.

Is the rifling deep? Or shallow?
I double checked the twist rate. With a brush in my range rod it twists about 210° over its 35" internal length which is in keeping with the reading I saw saying it's a 1:56"
I added some bore pics showing the rifling to the original post.
Hope this helps you make an informed decision.
 
Numrich used to offer an “Instant Muzzle Loader” kit. This was in the sixties, maybe even the late fifties. There were tons of very usable trapdoor Springfield rifles in those days, selling for nearly nothing, but comparatively few new or shootable antique muzzleloaders. The Numrich kit consisted of a .45 caliber muzzleloader barrel that was a “drop in” replacement for the trapdoor barreled action, and an original Springfield M1863/64 percussion hammer. This would put a functional muzzleloader in a shooter’s hands at very little expense.

I suspect the subject gun is one of these… a Springfield trapdoor lock, stock, and fittings with the “Instant Muzzleloader” barrel and original replacement hammer.

I’m pretty sure these barrels were intended for patched round balls and the 1:56” twist sounds about right. I do recall that the .45 caliber barrels were actually undersized, something like .443” or .437” land to land. The Numrich “.45” caliber barrels were the reason all the bullet suppliers made .433” round balls, as this was the generally recommended ball size for these barrels. Moulds are still available and Hornady and Speer both still make swaged balls in this size. I think you can find the specs for the old Numrich barrels in the back of the Dixie catalog. I’ll look it up later, if someone doesn’t beat me to it.

Notchy Bob
 
My apologies to @rmark (post #7), who identified the rifle before I submitted my post. I somehow overlooked his comments prior to entering my own. I did not see the 1884 date on the cartouche when I first looked through the photos. I think he was spot on in his identification.

The old Springfield locks from the muzzleloading era usually had a manufacturing date stamped on the lock plate aft of the hammer. The early trapdoors used surplus muzzleloader locks fitted with a new breechloader hammer, so it is common to see an M1873 Springfield with an 1864-dated lock. I don't see a date on this lockplate, which I would take to indicate later production, so the 1884 date on the stock fits. For those who are interested, the current (November 2023) issue of American Rifleman has a terrific article about Springfield trapdoor rifles, with excellent illustrations and text walking you through the different models as they evolved.

I could not find the general information I sought on Numrich muzzleloader barrels, but in the back of the Dixie catalog I did find confirmation that the .45 caliber Hopkins & Allen reproduction rifles (made by Numrich) had an actual bore size of .443". I could not find anything about groove depth or twist, but I am as sure as I can be that these barrels were made for patched round balls.

Someone asked about the ramrod. You can get a high-quality reproduction rod for the trapdoor Springfield rifles from Butch's Antique Gun Parts for $45. It's actually a cleaning rod, but it should fit the stock and also work as a loading rod.

Good luck with your sale, @dogfood ! I hope this side chatter has not been too distracting. You have an interesting rifle at a fair price, and in my opinion it is a significant firearm in the history of modern muzzleloading.

Notchy Bob
 
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