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I have a 1861 Springfield reproduction by Pedersoli. I absolutely love it. But after firing and cleaning it I nowhere these black stains on the barrel near the nipple. Can't get rid of them. Any advice would be appreciated.
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How and with what did you clean it?
I use very hot water and Dawn dishsoap then once dry I used either CLP or Remington gun lube in a can. I'm reluctant to use something like steel wool because I'm not sure if that will harm the finish. This is the first firearm that I've owned with that type of finish.
 
I'm assuming this a pickled finish? if it is any type of ammonia based gun cleaner will do that. Basically the ammonia is chemically reacting with the acid used to finish the metal.
 
If you try anything to clean it up I would do it with the barrel out of the stock. Might want experiment on the bottom of the barrel. Definitely looks like whatever you are cleaning with reacted with barrel finish. Is this one of those Cerakote finishes? Doesn’t look like it, but Pedersoli has been using it on some guns.
 
I'm assuming this a pickled finish? if it is any type of ammonia based gun cleaner will do that. Basically the ammonia is chemically reacting with the acid used to finish the metal.
Not sure what the finish is called. Or if it's just bare metal.
 
If you try anything to clean it up I would do it with the barrel out of the stock. Might want experiment on the bottom of the barrel. Definitely looks like whatever you are cleaning with reacted with barrel finish. Is this one of those Cerakote finishes? Doesn’t look like it, but Pedersoli has been using it on some guns.
I do take the barrel off from the stock when cleaning. I like the idea of trying on a place that can't be seen, under barrel. Not sure what to use. Steel wool, Never Dull cleaner, plastic scrub pads,??? And I don't know what the finish is called if it's finished at all or just bare metal.
 
pedersoli dont use cerakote on anything SMH
What or who is your expert source? Or is just your opinion? I have owned one and handled a number of Pedersolis with a Cerakote ceramic type brown colored finish on the barrels. Personally don’t care for it on a traditional gun as it chips and peels instead of wearing like a rust or blue finish.
 
What or who is your expert source? Or is just your opinion? I have owned one and handled a number of Pedersolis with a Cerakote ceramic type brown colored finish on the barrels. Personally don’t care for it on a traditional gun as it chips and peels instead of wearing like a rust or blue finish.
I have a couple older pedersolis that had a type of coating that was more like brown spray paint. One is a 1989 Mortimer shotgun and one is a 2016 Mortimer rifle. You could almost scratch it off with your fingernail. My new Indian trade gun has a much more durable cerakote type finish that looks much better. The older ones with the paint finish was easily removed with citri-strip and I rust browned them with Laurel mountain forge solution. So yes in fact Pedersoli has a long history of using these types of finishes. Traditions has also started using cerakote on their new browned mountain rifles.
 
Are those guns in the white? I have never owned a gun in the white but my understanding is that they patina like that.
 
I have a 61 springfield ,they are bright or in the white, take the barrel out of the stock, get a scotch bright pad (the green one) and use a light oil such as 3 in 1 scrub it good. Mine has many miles on it from civil war reenacting and has always cleaned up, they will develop marks such as this but not that hard to remove. You can also use a very fine emery cloth or the finest steel you can get (4 ought) wool but do the whole barrel it will dull the metal a bit. Looks like to me there was a bit of burnt powder or cap residue you missed during the cleaning that reacted with the oil or the carrier the oil was mixed with for the aerosol you applied after cleaning.
 
Gotta love patina. Congrats on her first tiny little bit of character. You’ll feel better after the first ding in the stock as well. Them are real nice. She’ll be fabulous in no time. Don’t worry.
The boss pulled up one time on a construction site in a brand new truck, he got out and he showed it to us, then proceeded to put a big ole dent in it with a hammer. I was like "What are you doing?!" He said "This things gonna get beat to hell anyway, might as well be me that puts the first ding in it!"

A little different scenario, but it made me think of it when you said that.
 
I have a 61 springfield ,they are bright or in the white, take the barrel out of the stock, get a scotch bright pad (the green one) and use a light oil such as 3 in 1 scrub it good. Mine has many miles on it from civil war reenacting and has always cleaned up, they will develop marks such as this but not that hard to remove. You can also use a very fine emery cloth or the finest steel you can get (4 ought) wool but do the whole barrel it will dull the metal a bit. Looks like to me there was a bit of burnt powder or cap residue you missed during the cleaning that reacted with the oil or the carrier the oil was mixed with for the aerosol you applied after cleaning.
Thank you for the information, that was what I was looking for. So they don't have any type of finish on that I could mess up with the scrub pad? Looks like I'll be more careful when cleaning.
 
What did you use to clean the barrel. That looks like a easy and quick way to get a good patina started.
 
I’ll chime in on this:
If you purchased this brand new, the discoloration MIGHT be from a factory substance or other chemical that got on it. I’m thinking that chemical/residue is what you see after you’ve fired it - got the metal up to temperature and is now visible after it’s cooled and has been cleaned.
As long as it’s not rust, the earlier response of a little scotch-brite plus elbow grease should remove that residue.
Just my 2 bits worth...
James
 
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