Swedish Dog Lock Musket

[Ike Godsey]

Howdy!

Here in the "German version" of Gun Broker is a original Dog Lock Musket up for auction.

These are the sepcs:
Length: 147cm
Caliber; 21,00mm
Barrel: smoothbore
Stockwood: Birch

The starting bid is 195,00€ which is close to 220US$.

The seller says, the muskets origin is swedish.
Can anyone here tell me, if such muskets havebeen used in the Colonies at any time? Maybe during the AWI or FWI?

Thank you in advance,

Ike :hatsoff:

 

[dave_person]

Hi Ike,
That is one ugly musket. It is hard to guess a date from the photos because the Swedes kept using a dog on their muskets for almost the entire 18th century. I did not realize they made such crudely stocked guns. The Swedish military firearms I've seen all were much better made. I wonder if it is a restock from surplus parts. I am not aware of any batches of Swedish arms being used in our War for Independence. During the 17th century, there were Swedish colonies in what is now northern Delaware and southern New Jersey. Swedish colonists certainly had Swedish guns at that time but they were taken over by the Dutch in 1655 and then by the English in 1664. I doubt many of their firearms survived to be used in the late 18th century. Certainly, some American colonist might have carried a Swedish musket during the AWI,perhaps obtained in the one Swedish Caribbean colony that existed at the time. However, I've never seen a surviving example.

dave

 

[Ike Godsey]

Thank you. :hatsoff:

I have searched a bit and found this:
http://www.ambroseantiques.com/flongarms/1791swede.htm

The stock is different - this would underline your theory of restocking.
The hardware is pretty close, so this makes it a 1791s musket a way too late for AWI.

ike

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Well if you had it at an event here, nobody is going to give you a bad time about it, especially since it may be 18th century. :grin:

Pretty cool, I wonder if it has a viable bore?

LD

 

[Ike Godsey]

Pretty cool, I wonder if it has a viable bore?

Dave,

the seller writes the barrel is covered with grease. So I guess it should be OK.

Ike

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

... the seller writes the barrel is covered with grease. So I guess it should be OK

Last time I checked ... grease can easily cover any rust or corrosive effects that were there BEFORE it was greased.

If serious, I’d insist on a non-firing 3-day inspection period, where you could return it if needed. Only co$ts you the shipping charges.

 

[Stumpkiller]

I agree with FlintSmoothie.

It would depend on when the grease was applied and over what.

 

[Ike Godsey]

I found a similar gun here, even if it was altered to a kind of carbine...

It has the same stockform, and I asume the same type of wood.

Ike

 

[toot]

i have an original one and in the time period and them they didn't have bridals on the frizzens, they came later?

 

[Luzur]

Looks like a restocked 1791 swedish army musket with bayonet.

more info:

https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024382639/gevar-m-1791/media?slide=0

 

[Rifleman1776]

That is one ugly musket.

Tell us what you really think. :rotf:

Yes, agree. Pure ughs. But, all old guns are interesting in their own way.

 

[Luzur]

That is one ugly musket.

Tell us what you really think. :rotf:

Yes, agree. Pure ughs. But, all old guns are interesting in their own way.

Well it was made to gun down russians and danes, no need to look fancy