Sxs proof mark help

[Mousegunguy]

I’m trying to decipher the mark on the far left center. Also the ‘L’ lookin’ ones on both barrels. Any ideas?

 

[Shotgunblast]

 

[TFoley]

There is your answer above - it's Belgian.

The ELG over crown in a cartouche is the BP proof mark stamp - EPL = Épreuve Liége for muzzle loading BP arms. After the 1891 revisions it was applied to all firearms.

The intertwined E and L stand for ÉPREUVE LIÉGE - Liége Proof House.

The little decorative column symbol for 'view' - a Proof House term which means 'inspection' is the Peronne - a famous landmark in Liége.

The crown of N is an inspector's stamp. It can be any letter of the alphabet, except R - reserved for rifled arms. I have never seen i, j, q, y, p, w, or z either.

The L are assembly marks, to keep parts of the gun together whilst being fitted up.

 

[Mousegunguy]

Thanks but that doesn’t really help. I don’t see anything like the one in the center, far left.
I know the others.

 

[TFoley]

Thanks but that doesn’t really help. I don’t see anything like the one in the center, far left. I know the others.

Not sure if it's a P, or what. I've not seen a large letter like that on a Belgian gun before. I wouldn't lie awake about it, me.

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[SDSmlf]

Thanks but that doesn’t really help. I don’t see anything like the one in the center, far left.
I know the others.

Maybe if you temporarily added some definition to the stamps they would be easier to see. One way to bring out any engraving or stamping is to use a piece of old chalkboard chalk like they used when many of us were in school. When rubbed over the metal surface, the chalk helps make any markings much more visible, and it’s easily cleaned up leaving no evidence anything was done. As an example, both the following photographs were taken at about the same distance with the same camera and lighting (handheld, so slight difference). Difference is that before the second photograph chalk was rubbed into the engraving. Believe you can see that one is significantly easier to read than the other. No other adjustments or funny business between the two photographs.

 

[Mousegunguy]

Maybe if you temporarily added some definition to the stamps they would be easier to see. One way to bring out any engraving or stamping is to use a piece of old chalkboard chalk like they used when many of us were in school. When rubbed over the metal surface, the chalk helps make any markings much more visible, and it’s easily cleaned up leaving no evidence anything was done. As an example, both the following photographs were taken at about the same distance with the same camera and lighting (handheld, so slight difference). Difference is that before the second photograph chalk was rubbed into the engraving. Believe you can see that one is significantly easier to read than the other. No other adjustments or funny business between the two photographs.
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That’s awesome advice. Thanks

 

[Poguetx]

Often the country to which they were exported also added their stamps. Not sure about some that aren't shown on the Belgian page, but it was definitely made in Belgium.