T/C Jags

[Swampman]

I remember having one of these style jags back in the 1970s. Were they supposed to clean the patent breech too?

 

[MikeChapin]

I think that's what they were designed to do. My wife's Seneca jag is the same shape. I never had it work all that well for getting into the patent breech properly to clean it out. I still use a .22 brush with a patch wrapped around it to reach into the breech.

 

[MikeC]

I still have and use them. Bought mine back in the early 80's. Also have some of the original T/C nipples they sold in the same blister packs unopened, also from the early 80's.

 

[roundball]

There's no bigger fan, owner, user, promoter of T/C products than I've been for 18 years.
But having said that, like many companies they've had their quirks over the years...the step down jag being one of them.

Somebody had the brainstorm that a stepped jag could clean or lube the upper powder chamber of the patent breech...but it was still to big to get down into the smaller diameter of the lower powder chamber, and was ultimately discontinued.

Always been surprised T/C hasn't evolved the jags they do sell to have steel inserts like the excellent quality Treso jags.

 

[buttonbuck]

on this topic and related, to really get a deep clean in tc barrels which works best besides a lot of flushing stuff? I have the jag that came with my renegade made in the mid 90's. Which jags work best to clean green mountain barrels? I figure roundball knows this one. I know on my lyman plains pistol I use a 35 cal brush and 32 cal jag to clean out the breach.

 

[ldykeman]

+1 to what Roundball said. I have two of these that came with my old Renegades. I have also occasionally gotten these firmly stuck at the breech when swabbing between shots with a wet patch over them. I have to clamp my ramrod in a vise and yank on the barrel to get them unstuck. They are not tight in the bore, but seem to stick in the breech. My later T/C 1 in 66" twist barrel came with a non-tapered jag. I use that one now because it never gets stuck.
Larry

 

[roundball]

Like mike2005 said, a patch caught on the bristles of a small caliber rifle brush is hard to beat for sliding down into the patent breech after pump flushing to dry it out, and to wipe some lube in there after its dry

 

[Stumpkiller]

Yep. I've got two of the .50 and .54, but I never did find one to clean the patent breech in my 12 bore T/C New Englander. A mop jambed down with a purpose works (and takes the shape so I know that's what I have down there), but I'm never sure I'm getting the shoulder at the top of the breech fully clean.

 

[boar]

I have them. The worst thing about them was the patch coming off. But I like the as they go down far,just keep the patch worm handy. Dilly

 

[Stumpkiller]

I have them. The worst thing about them was the patch coming off. But I like the as they go down far,just keep the patch worm handy. Dilly

Through infuriation and proper application of nautical terminology I came up with a solution to that. For a while I would pierce one corner of all my cleaning patches with an awl and thread the jag through the hole into the rammer.

Now I just tuck the edge under the jag when screwing it in place. Haven't lost a cleaning patch back down the bore in 20 plus years since I started doing this.

And you get this information for free!

I swear prior to that I had patches that were sucked back into the bore having been several inches past the muzzle on the out-stroke. :shake: