Well, I got it. I remembered something my grandpappy used to tell me from his days on the assembly line "If it don't fit, git yerself a bigger hammer" :rotf: I really did not want to use a lot of force, but I wedged a long narrow shaft screwdriver under the hinge, got my rubber mallet, and one good "whack" popped that sucker off like a bottlecap. I had previously tried running a thin bladed gouge under the inner lip, and I noted some chunky white stuff coming out, probably some sort of glue...? I had also tried leveraging with a bicycle tire removal wedge, but that seemed too thick/wide. No damage to the inlet/mortice for the patchbox :thumbsup: I will be stripping the gawdy gloss finish off of it this week and will sand it down and go with a dark stain and tru-oil. Cleaned the brass, and now will spend a day darkening it. I tested the Birchwood Casey brass black on a piece of 30-30 brass, and it took 4 coats to get the dark color that I want for the brass. This should be a project that will take a week or two to finish. Thanks for the support and advice! Will post pics when its finished.