TC .58 Hawken

[nkbj]

The big brown truck rolled up with a TC Hawken barrel freshed out to .58 bore, 11/1000 deep grooves and 60" twist.
Yall reckon .570" ball and thick patches or .575's oughta work better while she gets broke in?
I'm kinda leaning towards canvas and the rubber hammer.

 

[roundball]

FWIW, my 1:70 x .012" groove .58cal GM drop-in barrel did fine with .018" pillow ticking...

 

[BrownBear]

I can't speculate about that particular freshed out barrel, because I don't know anything about the dimensions. My two TC Big Boar 58 cals are perfectly happy with .570 and ticking patch or .562 and canvas. Three of my hunting pards have GM 58 cal barrels on their Hawkens, and they all shoot .570 and ticking. I have four other 58's and three of them like that combo as well, while the 4th is a special case that requires .562.

I gotta say though that neither I nor any of my hunting pards are rubber hammer guys.

 

[Bill Hall]

I say start out with a basic load using a .570 ball and about a .018" thick patch and see where it goes from there. Finding that perfect load always boils down to trial and error. Good luck, Bill.

 

[nkbj]

Should get the chance to wring her out this weekend. I had asked Mr. Hoyt to give it his best round ball rifling for the barrel length so I've been looking forward to it. Still have the 32" .58 GM drop-in that I've been keeping as back-up in case the rebore doesn't suit me.
It may not rain but we'll have some thunder.

 

[Stubert]

If you don't mind, what does a re-bore cost now? i've got a 54 that wants to be bigger.

 

[nkbj]

Sending a PM.

 

[nkbj]

As it turned out that percussion barrel was never used. A .58 rebored Renegade flintlock barrel in the same box was worked up instead.

 

[nkbj]

Well, I put the barrel up for sale for a few days and nobody wanted it. So, today I radius worked the crown, polished the rifling, adjusted the sights, mounted the barrel in a TC Hawken stock, added an Uncle Mikes sling swivel set and banged the gong a few times. The balance and handling is nice.
Had two barrels rebored .58 with the same rifling. One a Renegade and this one a Hawken. Using the same denim patches the Renegade barrel is a short starter fit with .562 balls and the Hawken with .575. So, maybe the Hawken is a .59? Yeah, I could handle that.

 

[Snow on the Roof]

How would one contact Mr Hoyt? I've a .54 Renegade with a very poor bore Id like to make into .58.

Snow

 

[nkbj]

Bobby Hoyt 700 Fairfield Station Road Fairfield, Pennsylvania 17320
(717) 642-6696 BARREL

 

[lspjmp]

My brother has bought two antique rifles, one from 1864 and one from about 1830. He sent both to Mr. Hoyt for re-boring and other work. I must say that Bob Hoyt is one of a kind. His work is outstanding and his prices are extremely reasonable. With my bro's first rifle, Bob did the work and shipped it to me before he was even paid for the work. He told my brother that he trusted that he would be paid. I've never seen anyone do the work without payment up front first.
My opinion of Bob Hoyt is that he may be the best in the business right now, and his prices are more than fair.

How would one contact Mr Hoyt? I've a .54 Renegade with a very poor bore Id like to make into .58.

Snow

 

[nkbj]

A study in the fit and finish of Renegades...
See the way the butt plates are either too high or too low? That little bit of the lowering of the comb that makes the butt plate high also makes a Renegade not bump a cheek so much. In extreme high cases it makes it hard to line up on the sights. Any how, it was just something I'd noticed with them.

The critter is May Bell. In May she was just skin and bones, just a hand full. Growing like a weed.