Tent safety idea ...

[Flint62Smoothie]

Saw this in a wall tent this weekend. A 4’ x 6’ welding blanket on the floor under their stove. It was a pale yellow straw color, fire rated to 1000-def F ... and best of all only costs $18 at WallyWorld!

 

[necchi]

Oh Yeah,, good idea.
It might not be HC or PC,, but neither are most of us.
If your going to use a wood stove in a tent then to ere to caution is best.
Un-like people of the past at "Rendezvous" we go to events as a vacation and many don't feed stoves for heat on a regular basis. It's too easy to get caught up in the frivolity and visiting at an event and forget to tend the stove.

Don't get me wrong, in the 80's and well into the 90's my brother and I cut and used 10 cord a year between us to supplement our household heat and many today still do use wood,,
But I'd say for average vous folks it's just a novelty to use wood.
Safety first. I personally switched to propane with O2 sensors and still keep a fire extinguisher handy.
There was a thread a couple years ago in this section about tent fires,,,

 

[coloradoclyde]

Saw this in a wall tent this weekend. A 4’ x 6’ welding blanket on the floor under their stove. It was a pale yellow straw color, fire rated to 1000-def F ... and best of all only costs $18 at WallyWorld!

Great idea....Nothing wrong with being safety conscious.....only thing I would add is a fire extinguisher.

 

[tenngun]

:thumbsup:

 

[smo]

Oh Yeah,, good idea.
It might not be HC or PC,, but neither are most of us.
If your going to use a wood stove in a tent then to ere to caution is best.
Un-like people of the past at "Rendezvous" we go to events as a vacation and many don't feed stoves for heat on a regular basis. It's too easy to get caught up in the frivolity and visiting at an event and forget to tend the stove.

Don't get me wrong, in the 80's and well into the 90's my brother and I cut and used 10 cord a year between us to supplement our household heat and many today still do use wood,,
But I'd say for average vous folks it's just a novelty to use wood.
Safety first. I personally switched to propane with O2 sensors and still keep a fire extinguisher handy.
There was a thread a couple years ago in this section about tent fires,,,

Necchi, does your propane cause the tent to sweat? How bad? :idunno:

 

[necchi]

Nope. Buddy Heater, single element fed buy a 20# tank,
,RK Lodges 9x12 wall, 9x9 A-frame and 12x12 Pyramid,, sweating walls never a problem in any season from May through October in any of the tents.

p.s. and them things have all been through some Minnesota stuff :wink:

 

[coloradoclyde]

I love the smell of propane in the morning..... :grin:

 

[Loyalist Dave]

GOOD TIP!

:thumbsup:

LD

 

[Paul63]

Great idea! But just a small FYI. Most welding fire blankets are made of fiberglass, so take care to not get clothes or bedding in contact with it while traveling, loading and unloading your gear........bag it up. Having been a rod burner for 32+ years, Ive carried home enough fiberglass from those blankets to insulate my house and getting the fibres in your clothes or bedding could make for a looooong, scratchy, itchy weekend. :wink:

 

[nhmoose]

Dirt floors rarely catch fire.

 

[smo]

Thanks Necchi :hatsoff:

Just happen to have one of those Buddy heaters. :thumbsup:

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Dirt floors rarely catch fire.

... but dirt floors are COLD in temps below freezing ... and MUDDY when just above!

You’re from NH, you should be well versed in MUD season :blah: , haha!

Good tip on the fire extinguisher ... just be aware of the recent HUGE recall on Kidde extinguishers going back many years!

 

[zimmerstutzen]

sweating walls never a problem in any season from May through October? What about January? I understand Minnesota is a great deal colder than here in the mid Atlantic. In my area we rarely see temps under 0 F. And a February rendezvous is likely to get down to 10 degrees at night. I have stayed in tents in winter. My first experience happened when I was about 5 yrs old and the tent had a kerosene fired warm morning stove. Things stayed above freezing, but always below "see your breath" Last time was about ten years ago. Set up camp on a still dark Friday night about 15 degrees. two hours later, it was so hot in the tent, we had to open a flap. Had some snow showers over the next 36 hours and had an additional 2 inches of snow by the time we struck camp. I have a very small air tight Jotul wood stove. Weighs about 75 pounds total. When fired with good dry wood, it will toast you out of the tent. We used a folding aluminum reflector between the stove and the canvas.

 

[nhmoose]

Young guys have not heard of trenching a tent, Bad, bad, bad, now a days due to the ground erosion.

200 years ago till the new greenie stuff it kept the tent floor dry. It was taught in the 50's and 60's in the Boy Scouts. Became a serious no no soon after.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Oh I trenched my share of tents back in the day. But propane as suggested by Necchi is notorious for releasing humidity into the room/structure. Modern airtight houses with propane heat sometimes suffer from too much humidity and OSB siding warping from humidity within as condensation builds within the interior of the walls.

 

[necchi]

I think you guy's need to study a bit on what actually causes a tent to have sweat on the walls.
I'm pretty sure it's called condensation,, and condensation has more then a one aspect to the phenomena and to my knowledge propane as the fuel for a heat source isn't one of them.

And just as an aside Mr. zimmerstutzen,
If propane heat caused caused houses so much humidity as to cause damage,, there would be an awful amount of lawsuits against the industry here in rural Minn where natural gas is not available.

 

[coloradoclyde]

There is moisture created by burning propane, but in a house the exhaust is vented outside.
Necchi is correct. condensation due to temperature difference is the real culprit.

Also, people exude a lot of moisture simply by breathing, adding to the room humidity...That is why your car windows fog up in the winter.

Warm moist air meets the cold surface of the window and condensates...

 

[necchi]

Also, people exude a lot of moisture simply by breathing, adding to the room humidity...That is why your car windows fog up in the winter.

Oh yeah, I remember fogging up the windows more then a few times.

I guess one of the things I rely on is a tent not being air tight. While the Buddy heater does have a low Oxygen sensor (the reason I chose that heater) it's still hard to depend on one little device to keep me alive.
I'm olde, up here in Minn folks go Ice fishing,, a lot,, all manor of heaters have been used in those "ice shanty's" that out-state people hear about. While it's not as frequent now because of more modern designs 40yrs ago or more there was always reports of people dieing in those shacks from monoxide poisoning.
I haven't trenched a tent since boy-scouts or buttoned up a tent real tight,, I'm not saying I keep an open door or have huge drafts,, but I allow air to move.
Maybe that's why I'm not getting wet canvas.
That and here where we get cold climates we do acclimate to some point, maybe I'm not even using my heater in temps that others would.
When I'm using my heater we don't wake up with dew on the grass,, it's frost.

 

[coloradoclyde]

:rotf:

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Propane furnaces are indeed vented to the outside. Those propane ventless wall units are NOT. Buddy had one to heat his converted garage workshop. He had a side business farming artwork. He had a terrible humidity problem, until he got rid of the wall unit. Even a propane kitchen range can cause excess moisture in a house if used constantly.