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Parzifal

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Hey guys look in the pre flintlock page in there is a subject talking about argentine made matchlocks and click the link...Look at this companys brown bess, It looks like they have attachments that screw into the battery screw hole and a attachment that fits inth the jaws of the hammer to make a adlib PERCUSSION CONVERSION for muskets...

Now , I need info or specs....This could be a AMAZING development..
 
Ive seen a photo of a Bess converted like that for the Virginia Militia during the Civil War. It looked to be a second Model Bess.
 
It is similar to a relatively common "on the cheap" conversion done in this country and in Europe. It seems to be most common in New England, but it is hard to tell how common they really were since it is not a very durable conversion - the cock will eventually break. Below is a picture of a conversion of this type done to a US M1795 musket:

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While some muskets may have been converted for use by various state forces involved in our Civil War, they were not used by the National (Federal or Confederate) Armories.

Below are examples of Swedish military muskets/rifles shared with us by a Forum member from Sweden a year or so ago:

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As you can see, all are similar to the conversion shown on the Argentine site, they are not quite the same - the block held in the cock is a little more massive and, especially in the US example, a little cruder. Too bad he only offers the short, so called carbine, but such a conversion could be done by almost anyone on existing reproduction longarms and I have been tempted, but with modern cast parts I doubt that it would last long enough to make it worth the effort.

All that being said, thanks for the link to the site, there is at least one more site from Argentina that offers some very nice reproductions of US, British, Spanish and Argentinian military firearms but I lost the link during a transfer of information from an older computer. :(
 
I Have seen a simalar conversion on a flintlock rifle. The big diference is that the conversion was not a permanent one. The gun had a drum and nipple installed that sat in the existing pan. the Hammer held a steel rod striker in place of the flint. The gun still retained all the flintlock parts, including the frizen.The rifle had a vent linner for returning to flintlock.
This was done just as the percussion system was becoming available. When out in the mountains if you ran out of caps you could change back to a flint lock in just a few minuets.I have only seen one example on a hawken type rifle.
 
Thats what I mean...I love the idea , and it still retains the beauty of the lock.

Seems like a good idea especially when real black cannot be had for periods of time and all you can find are subs.

Cheers
 
Sorry guys, I wouldn't trust a procedure like that as far as I could throw it. Converting back and forth from flint to percussion will cause trouble ( :shocked2: SERIOUS TROUBLE :shocked2: ) down the road.
 
I think a manton tube lock conversion would be simpler and better...shame no one is making tube primers any more! :hmm:
 
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