time machine

[morehops52]

Not me. I love looking at old cars (50's- 70's). Thought i'd really like to have one someday. Tried one for kicks. No power steering, no power brakes w/ drums, AM radio, no A/C, can only control MY crank window. I will admit it was totally nice having a bench seat with no console at the drive in. But there ain't no way i'm going back to them old days with no Charmin!

 

[Paul Kenney]

Like astronauts that advocate a one way trip to Mars, I would have to seriously consider a trip to the past. I believe there is a higher plane of existence where that is probably possible, but not within the confines of our current meat jackets.

I like my meat jacket and won’t purposely pull a Heaven’s Gate type journey. Science says time travel is possible through an Einstein Rosen Bridge though that is not possible with today’s technology. That said, all the paradoxes that everyone is so worried about, like killing your grandfather are not real paradoxes i.e. the timeline would fix itself. Then there’s the Low Men in Yellow Jackets, who are a fictional time police (Stephen King) who are absolutely not to be messed with and give me the chills just considering that they might be real. By the way any Kennedy assassination buffs should definitely read 11/22/63. Lastly, but not lastly, my lovely wife would need to come along and that is less possible than the Einstein Rosen bridge. So I’m afraid I can’t time travel or ride motorcycles.

If I was still single or with my ex though, I would go in a heartbeat, especially if I could have my current knowledge. I think it would be relatively easy to make a quick buck with 21st century knowledge, so that would take care of the dying of starvation issue, but the dying of disease issue would be much harder to avoid, though today’s knowledge could benefit a person in that regard too.

There is an existing time machine called the Hubble telescope. Very distant galaxies are billions of light-years away. At that distance, their light tells what the universe was like billions of years ago. Since the age of the universe is about 13.8 billion years, these distant observations allow astronomers to measure changes over the lifetime of the universe. The James Webb infra red telescope can look back to within a 100 million years of the creation of the universe.

 

[springfield art]

Not to mention no toilet paper.
The stench and general unsanitariness would be apalling when around most other people.
The prevailing state of feminine hygeine would keep me celibate.

The lack of such amenities back in that time! No easy hot water, little bathing, can't imagine the itch & smell of the general population! Not common to wash hands, (even surgeons!), poor "dentistry", such as it was, and seeing kin die routinely from easily avoided diseases. I'll take today and have fun studying the Past!

 

[stephenprops1]

Like astronauts that advocate a one way trip to Mars, I would have to seriously consider a trip to the past. I believe there is a higher plane of existence where that is probably possible, but not within the confines of our current meat jackets.

I like my meat jacket and won’t purposely pull a Heaven’s Gate type journey. Science says time travel is possible through an Einstein Rosen Bridge though that is not possible with today’s technology. That said, all the paradoxes that everyone is so worried about, like killing your grandfather are not real paradoxes i.e. the timeline would fix itself. Then there’s the Low Men in Yellow Jackets, who are a fictional time police (Stephen King) who are absolutely not to be messed with and give me the chills just considering that they might be real. By the way any Kennedy assassination buffs should definitely read 11/22/63. Lastly, but not lastly, my lovely wife would need to come along and that is less possible than the Einstein Rosen bridge. So I’m afraid I can’t time travel or ride motorcycles.

If I was still single or with my ex though, I would go in a heartbeat, especially if I could have my current knowledge. I think it would be relatively easy to make a quick buck with 21st century knowledge, so that would take care of the dying of starvation issue, but the dying of disease issue would be much harder to avoid, though today’s knowledge could benefit a person in that regard too.

Consider this - If you went back in time and tried to use your current knowledge on those in the past you could be burned as a witch.

 

[sethwyo]

Consider this - If you went back in time and tried to use your current knowledge on those in the past you could be burned as a witch.

I don't know what he said because I got tired of his belligerent harassment and put him on ignore,

But I know if he went back in time, and treated people the way he treats people here, and acts the way he does here,
he'd find out what a Chuck stool is/was

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I sent him to the cornfield too!

 

[Hermit Tim]

If it were just me I'd gladly give it a shot. Wouldn't worry too much about the stink of others. My plan would be to totally avoid others.

Here's a little story: in high school I had a buddy we'll call Larry. We graduated the same year and later, in about 1988, ol' Larry got his heart broken. Struggled with it for a while and, finally his truck was found on a dirt road heading into the woods close to a creek I used to fish. He was never to be seen in public again and nobody knew what became of him. Then, in about 1993, I went fishing at that creek one Sunday morning. About mid morning I caught movement in the bush to my right. I watched to see what was coming. Out stepped a cave man. Barefoot, wearing nothing but a loin cloth, carrying a homemade spear, bushy beard and hair down his back. As he got closer, and walked right by me, he flashes a big smile, didn't say a word, and disappeared in the woods behind me. It was Larry. He looked healthy and happy, so I guess the ability to go back in time depends on the man. Never saw him again.

 

[bpd303]

I wouldn't mind going back to 1959...

 

[sethwyo]

If it were just me I'd gladly give it a shot. Wouldn't worry too much about the stink of others. My plan would be to totally avoid others.

Here's a little story: in high school I had a buddy we'll call Larry. We graduated the same year and later, in about 1988, ol' Larry got his heart broken. Struggled with it for a while and, finally his truck was found on a dirt road heading into the woods close to a creek I used to fish. He was never to be seen in public again and nobody knew what became of him. Then, in about 1993, I went fishing at that creek one Sunday morning. About mid morning I caught movement in the bush to my right. I watched to see what was coming. Out stepped a cave man. Barefoot, wearing nothing but a loin cloth, carrying a homemade spear, bushy beard and hair down his back. As he got closer, and walked right by me, he flashes a big smile, didn't say a word, and disappeared in the woods behind me. It was Larry. He looked healthy and happy, so I guess the ability to go back in time depends on the man. Never saw him again.

I'm not sure where this 'everybody stank because nobody washed '
idea comes from.

People were not the germophobic hand sanitizer wimps that they are today ,
but
they certainly did wash regularly back in the 1800s,

Personal accounts given , during interviews and in books written by people who lived in those times,
of people that washed every day,
Some every other day, and the amount of time the women spent laundering, and in some of the camps or communities where there weren't a lot of women there were some men that wore given the job of doing the laundry everyday,
Reading the descriptions of the amount of time washing the clothing and the amount of soap that people went through really debunks this thing that nobody ever washed and just stank all the time.

Reading about the amount of soap that local stores an traders went through, it was one of the number one demanded items.

 

[Hermit Tim]

I'm not sure where this 'everybody stank because nobody washed '
idea comes from.

People were not the germophobic hand sanitizer wimps that they are today ,
but
they certainly did wash regularly back in the 1800s,

Personal accounts given , during interviews and in books written by people who lived in those times,
of people that washed every day,
Some every other day, and the amount of time the women spent laundering, and in some of the camps or communities where there weren't a lot of women there were some men that wore given the job of doing the laundry everyday,
Reading the descriptions of the amount of time washing the clothing and the amount of soap that people went through really debunks this thing that nobody ever washed and just stank all the time.

Reading about the amount of soap that local stores an traders went through, it was one of the number one demanded items.

Yep, that's why said I wouldn't be too worried about it. Soap is easy to come by or make and water is plentiful, at least where I would be. I'd be more worried about food water fire shelter. And avoiding the orange clad weekend warriors and others.

 

[waarp8nt]

I would not have made it past the double pneumonia as a little guy.

Even in these modern times medical procedures have their shortcomings. I don't remember much other than crawling out of the tent multiple times. The nurses strapped me in the tent, so I couldn't crawl out. Luckily, my Aunt was a nurse at a different hospital and found the local nurses didn't turn on the oxygen in the tent. Good thing she was there, since I was no longer able to crawl out of the tent. Needless to say my Aunt gave them the what for in regards to their incompetence.

I would love to have seen the Missouri River with Lewis and Clark or maybe trapped beaver with Colter and/or Bridger.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

Ya I don't see an issue with hygiene back then, I'd rather smell yesteryear's BO than today's BS.

 

[smoothshooter]

Back in "the good old days" they had bills to pay, there were politicians, and there were fat mouths and liars. You dream of a eutopia that never really existed.

I wouldn’t say it was utopia, but what we are dealing with today, inside our own borders, is a different kind of evil. In some ways it’s similar to the situation that brought down the Roman Empire, except in our case it won’t take nearly as long.

 

[smoothshooter]

Ya I don't see an issue with hygiene back then, I'd rather smell yesteryear's BO than today's BS.

Just think what people’s teeth, toenails, and fingernails looked like. ( Ugh).

 

[smoothshooter]

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How many would give up all the things we have in this century and go back to around 1800 or so ,
somewhere thereabouts,
to stand in line and put our x in the ledger and shake Fremonts hand and with one hand and receive our rifle and kit with the other,
to give up electricity ,clean running water, toilets, our highways , our vehicles , all the food we get from the grocery stores, medical Care.

No more City council Members , no more county commissioners , no more TV,
no more monthly bills, no more politicians, no more political arguments,
No more traffic to navigate to go get food, no more fat mouths and liars.

Collecting and shooting antique and antique style muzzleloaders are a bit of an escape from the insane world we live in today.

But there are accounts of people who , while out one evening driving on the highway or out for a walk went through some fog and emerged in a different century, when the fog lifted they were returned to modern times.

There's an enormous number of missing people in this country and in the world,
it's likely that a lot of these people have tragically met with a bad end,
But I wonder if some of them went back in time, realized what had happened , Kept their cool, and just decided to avoid the fog and stay there instead of coming back to this place the rest of us hafto live in

There was no shortage of fat mouths and liars even then.

 

[smoothshooter]

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How many would give up all the things we have in this century and go back to around 1800 or so ,
somewhere thereabouts,
to stand in line and put our x in the ledger and shake Fremonts hand and with one hand and receive our rifle and kit with the other,
to give up electricity ,clean running water, toilets, our highways , our vehicles , all the food we get from the grocery stores, medical Care.

No more City council Members , no more county commissioners , no more TV,
no more monthly bills, no more politicians, no more political arguments,
No more traffic to navigate to go get food, no more fat mouths and liars.

Collecting and shooting antique and antique style muzzleloaders are a bit of an escape from the insane world we live in today.

But there are accounts of people who , while out one evening driving on the highway or out for a walk went through some fog and emerged in a different century, when the fog lifted they were returned to modern times.

There's an enormous number of missing people in this country and in the world,
it's likely that a lot of these people have tragically met with a bad end,
But I wonder if some of them went back in time, realized what had happened , Kept their cool, and just decided to avoid the fog and stay there instead of coming back to this place the rest of us hafto live in

Sometimes, when I find an older coin in my pocket change, I look at the year stamped on it and if it is from the 1960 to 1990 period I pause and take a couple of minutes thinking back on where I was in life that year, what was going on in the world around me near and far, and compare it to modern times.
Most of the time it saddens me how things have changed.

 

[smoothshooter]

I'm not sure where this 'everybody stank because nobody washed '
idea comes from.

People were not the germophobic hand sanitizer wimps that they are today ,
but
they certainly did wash regularly back in the 1800s,

Personal accounts given , during interviews and in books written by people who lived in those times,
of people that washed every day,
Some every other day, and the amount of time the women spent laundering, and in some of the camps or communities where there weren't a lot of women there were some men that wore given the job of doing the laundry everyday,
Reading the descriptions of the amount of time washing the clothing and the amount of soap that people went through really debunks this thing that nobody ever washed and just stank all the time.

Reading about the amount of soap that local stores an traders went through, it was one of the number one demanded items.

SOME people washed every day or two. Most didn’t. Depended on which social group you were a part of, and the availability of soap and water.
I doubt that many people in NY, NH, VT, and Canada in the dead of winter had the desire to draw and carry water into the house or camp and heat it up, take most or all their clothes off, wash, and get dressed again. Every day or two. Or even once a week.
The rise of the French perfume industry was in response to people from all walks of life’s reluctance to bathe more than once or twice a year, and rarely changing or washing clothes.
I realize I am only talking about practices in North America and Europe.
As for other cultures, I can only guess.

 

[sethwyo]

Sometimes, when I find an older coin in my pocket change, I look at the year stamped on it and if it is from the 1960 to 1990 period I pause and take a couple of minutes thinking back on where I was in life that year, what was going on in the world around me near and far, and compare it to modern times.
Most of the time it saddens me how things have changed.

I actually do the very same thing.
I like to look at the dates on those old coins, try to picture back in 1964 somebody was using this nickel to buy a bottle of soda pop or an ice cream bar with this coin,
Not having to worry because somebody's going to scream at them for not wearing shoes in the store not having to worry about getting ran over crossing the street. Or kidnapped.
In some of the small towns I found Buffalo nickels that were still in circulation , just a few years ago I found one I got back in change from a Jack and Jill grocery

 

[Shortfingers]

I wouldn’t say it was utopia, but what we are dealing with today, inside our own borders, is a different kind of evil. In some ways it’s similar to the situation that brought down the Roman Empire, except in our case it won’t take nearly as long.