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I just had a white lightning liner installed yesterday, and this liner isn't removable without destroying it. However I had only removed the old liner a couple of times in the last 10 years. I run a pipe cleaner into it after cleaning and it always came back clean, so I am not going to worry about not being able to remove this new one.
When the breach plug was removed from my barrel yesterday I was pleased how clean my breach was.
I use a 45 cal brush for cleaning the patented breach on my Cabalas Hawkins.
Here are some photos of this work along with some of last weeks time at the hunting shack with the Grandchildren. http://www.nashwauk.net/Flintlock.html
 
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laufer said:
how often do yuo take it out and clean it? pros and cons for cleaning it every time after shooting?
I remove and clean a stainless steel liner and the liner seat every time I clean the rifle.
Mine are no different than removing a stainless steel nipple during routine cleaning for the same reason...same 1/4x28 stainless threads in the same block of breech plug steel...there's no difference.

To each their own of course.
 
It's a matter of choice, most builders leave a liner that is not removable, and recomend not removing those that can be removed, I don't think it needs to be done to do a complete cleaning of a gun, the drum on a capper is left in place, I am an advocate for a plain vent hole so it is not an issue for me.When I did have guns with liners that were removable I did not take the time to remove them, just extra time spent that wasn't required.
 
I remove mine every time for cleaning. After cleaning I put anti-seize grease on the threads before re-installing. Same as I do for percussion nipples.

HD
 
Before I changed the barrel on my Blue Ridge to a Green Mtn barrel I cleaned the liner every time I put the gun up. The reason being the patent breech had a small hole .20 size and I felt better about reliability if I took out the liner and used a pipe cleaner or a 22 caliber brush from the muzzle and cleaned her up good.

With my GM barrel I used a "White Lightning" and dont feel the need even if I could remove it since the powder is right there all the time...............Bob
 
I put non removable liners in all my guns. I don't want to be liable for worn out threads years from now and the liner becoming a projectile. I about got killed by a drum and nipple from another guys gun years ago. He always unscrewed the drum to clean and wore out the threads.
 
I can see it happening now...the guy next to you at the range gets hit with a drum going at a high rate of speed. Range gets sued...range closes down. Bad, bad, bad. Mine never come out either.
 
Well, the only flinter I've had has a Green Mountain barrel. The stainless liner screws in and out real easy even when fouled. I take it out every time I clean, just for my own satisfaction. I don't see how the threads could possibly get worn out, as easy as it is to start and remove.
 
None of my flinters have a patent breech so I see no reason ever to remove the vent liner. Clean the barrel, scrape the breechplug face, flush, run a pipe cleaner in and out. Works for me.
 
i have white lightning in my rifle, comes out very easy every time i clean the rifle, goes back even easier. i was told by the manufacturer that there is no need to take it out every time, maybe after the season is over to 'retire' it for the summer. it gets quite dirty with goex, and i could not sleep well with it staying in my rifle over night.
thanks guys.
 
laufer said:
i have white lightning in my rifle, comes out very easy every time i clean the rifle, goes back even easier. i was told by the manufacturer that there is no need to take it out every time, maybe after the season is over to 'retire' it for the summer. it gets quite dirty with goex, and i could not sleep well with it staying in my rifle over night.
thanks guys.
Properly installed, a white lightning liner is not removable with out drilling it out and backing it out with an easy out.
 
I don't. All of the liners in my rifles do not come out easily. When I install them I put red Lock-Tite on the threads when I install them to seal the threads. If I need to change them, a little heat and an easy out and they come right out.

I have one flinter that has a patent breech but I still don't pull the liner when I clean (can't do it easily anyway). A .22 brush with a patch wrapped around it cleans it fine. During cleaning I tie a rag around the touch hole area to keep cleaning juices from coming out the touch hole and running down the stock.
 
well, easy for me may not be that easy, but after i put approx 270# down and turn, it comes out ok. threads have bp resudue after i clean the barrel without removing the liner first, so i take it out and clean every time. goes out much easier if no hot water is used for cleaning the barrel.
 
How do you get ahold of it? A white lightning is filed flush with the barrel. There's no screwdriver slot or anything left.

I don't take mine out...of course, I don't use them!

I have used them before, of course, and they are permanently installed.
 
Swamp Rat said:
Well I have 5 white lightnings installed in 5 guns and none come out, theres no way they can.


Do you feel that the white lightnings make a big difference over standard liners?
 
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