Trigger & bolt spring

[warhawk77]

OK so while disassembling my 1851 navy I broke the trigger and bolt spring. The trigger side is fine but the bolt does not lock the cylinder so not really safe to shot.

Looking a Midway they have springs but I only see Uberti and Wolf springs will these work in all 1851 navy? The revolver doesn't have any marks so I don't know the maker but it looks just like my pietta and the springs match so it's a pietta or they are all the same.

 

[Dphar]

OK so while disassembling my 1851 navy I broke the trigger and bolt spring. The trigger side is fine but the bolt does not lock the cylinder so not really safe to shot.

Looking a Midway they have springs but I only see Uberti and Wolf springs will these work in all 1851 navy? The revolver doesn't have any marks so I don't know the maker but it looks just like my pietta and the springs match so it's a pietta or they are all the same.

They should all be interchangeable for the SAA, Navies and the 1860 Army.
Most of these are rough stamped and need to be smoothed on all surfaces and tapered slightly in THICKNESS if too strong as some are. This will reduce stress on the spring and removing all rough edges and filing a SLIGHT bevel on the resulting square corners to eliminate stress risers that cause the springs to break. Piano wire springs have better reliability. Brownell's is a place to look as well.
Dan

 

[warhawk77]

Thank you i will be ordering the spring

 

[cynthialee]

I just striped my 1851 down the other day and I am left wondering how did you break it? It isn't like the insides are fragile.

 

[warhawk77]

I don't know what I did.

Saturday I took it part and cleaned everything but didn't take the trigger, bolt of hammer off the frame. Just a light spray of Rem oil and light tooth brush. Put it all back together it worked fine.

Last night I had the great idea to polish the screws/pins that the trigger, bolt, and hammer sit on. Doing that made a huge difference in the one of the Pietta so thought I would try it on the older one. When I opened it up the spring fell out so guessing I didn't something wrong but no idea what.

 

[crockett]

I think you can break them if they are put in underside down or the cam on the trigger somehow gets jammed in wrong, etc- they do break.
At the risk of being wrong it seems like there ought to be some wiggle room on the spring- a replacement hand, etc needs to be fitted to the gun but any spring for a Navy colt ought to work.

 

[Wes/Tex]

I think you can break them if they are put in underside down or the cam on the trigger somehow gets jammed in wrong, etc- they do break.
At the risk of being wrong it seems like there ought to be some wiggle room on the spring- a replacement hand, etc needs to be fitted to the gun but any spring for a Navy colt ought to work.

They will absolutely break but it's not always your fault. It's odd that both failed at once but bad tempering, etc. can make good looking parts fail under even light pressure. Thank the good Lord parts are cheap and available! :wink:

 

[hawkeye2]

The trigger/bolt spring is one spring with two arms. They break quite frequently often splitting through the screw hole. I have heard that in addition to smoothing/deburing cutting a slot from the bottom of the notch between both arms to the screw hole will increase their life.

 

[M. De Land]

I make mine out of stainless spring steel from an old Luftkin tape measure.
They are very tough and the only way to work them is with a dremel disk and drill the hole with a carbide bit. I have never had one fail in all the years I have been making them. Mike D.

 

[pat i.]

I had the same exact thing happen to me the other day with my Uberti. I have to suspect the spring wasn't tempered right because it's nothing that I did. Have two of them coming from Midway.

 

[BGRooster1]

I have taken a safety pin and removed the keeper from the piano wire and shaped it to fit.
cost = a few pennies as we have lots of them from a package bought for a few dollars.
Also.I went to a hobby store and picked up a 36" piece of piano wire for $0.75 and cut off what I needed for the same spring.